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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2003, 09:33:21 AM »
Actually, one more thing. :)

There is a black border line around all the windows. What happened to left and top being trimmed with a white line and right and bottom being trimmed with black?

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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2003, 09:41:02 AM »
A, perhaps stupid and slightly off-topic, question:

I know QS screenshots are supposed to show a lot of programs and what not to look productive, but OS4 has what OS3.1 is worshipped for (by me :)) - multiple screens, right?
That is one of the greatest (and most missed everywhere) features I have ever seen. Different screens with different resolution, depth and content. Ahhh.

Oh, I just thought of something; MUI, at least, has that PSI or whatever manage to make its own screens for its application, so I guess what I really want to know is if
a) OS4 reaction supports it in a similar way.
b) It is difficult to implement on newer graphics boards, so it is not implemented / not working (I do not know why it would be so, but perhaps newer graphics chips cannot deal with two resolutions at once...what do I know, right? :)).

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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2003, 09:48:22 AM »
I really like the new screenshot, and the mere fact that there are so many of them lately makes me happy already, but...
Am I the only one who thinks that the slightly changed look looks much better and less dull than the to-be-default look? The blue being alot brighter lightens the whole shop up imho.


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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2003, 10:30:09 AM »
Best screenshots yet, AmiPDF looks cool, and check out the true-type
display on IBrowse and YAM, great stuff :-)

Agree with Dragon on DepthMenu, use it myself great little program,
hopefully it will find its way into OS4's contributions drawer :-)
 

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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2003, 10:53:13 AM »
SWEET...
And since my favorit game is Colonization, I just have to love this :-)

Can't wait till AOS 4.0 is released....
 

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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2003, 11:16:14 AM »
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I like very much the buttons in the picture with the outward look gradients



I like the whole image look !


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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2003, 03:17:46 PM »
Looks sweet!  :-)
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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2003, 05:47:33 PM »
Someone please tell me that the system will support flat style buttons.

It appears that we also desperately need some look- and- feel guidelines. I realize that it's early on, but every application and utility that I've seen so far looks completely different.

And please - why fully justify buttons in dialogs? This is an Amiga oddity that I could never understand. Why move the mouse to the extreme corners of a dialog just to select between 2 different options?
 

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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2003, 06:37:53 PM »
Instead minimize, maximize etc in this picture we could have a list of all iconified programms, so that we can deiconify them. (Or at least I hope that all iconified programms -not only the MUI based- will be listed in the tools menu)
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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2003, 11:18:55 PM »
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MUI, at least, has that PSI or whatever manage to make its own screens for its application


The program you're looking for is called "Screens" under OS 4. You can define custom public screens and edit the GUI prefs for these screen.

I'll try to include it in the next batch of screenshots. :-)
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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2003, 11:32:45 PM »
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Someone please tell me that the system will support flat style buttons.


Sure. Just don't have gradient pattern and select "flat" as the border style -> black square flat buttons.

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I realize that it's early on, but every application and utility that I've seen so far looks completely different.


Some of these where legacy applications. Some where MUI. MUI will have a preconfigured look that matches the OS 4 Intuition look.

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This is an Amiga oddity that I could never understand.


It definitely makes it harder to hit the wrong button by accident.
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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2003, 01:19:18 AM »
;-) Now this is really getting there.  

:-) In the first screen, I see that the window gadgets have just a taste of 3-D, and not too much.  It looks like OS 2.x, updated.  Very new, yet very familiar, at the same time.

On the tools dock, there's an icon called "Access."  Does this relate to the new file system, or is it just some application or other?

:-? In the second screen, I see YAM, which seems to have been updated.  It seems that the right edge of the "Forward" button is chopped off, but that's just due to the window not being wide enough to include it.  It it using MUI, here?

On the third screen, I agree that the sizing gadget makes the right and bottom borders seem a little awkward.  Maybe it's just that I'm used to borders that wide having scroll bars in them, and they're absent, here.  Maybe the right and bottom borders could be thinner than the sizing gadget, until the window reached full size, then the sizing graphic could become invisible, but still functional, until the window was reduced to less than full size, again.  On the other hand, that may confuse people who weren't used to it, yet.

The 3-D effect is still spot-on, though.

;-) Screen Four shows IBrowse running in a MUI window which looks just like the intuition windows.  Appropriate.  Notepad seems to have gained a few buttons.  This is a welcome change, since one now needn't use the menu all of the time.  On that note, I wonder if the Magic Menu functionality allows the user to call up menus with the touch of a single key, as Windows does with the alt key?  I've gotten used to that; it's nice to just keep going without switching contexts to the mouse so frequently.

I like that the information window includes graphics, here.  Very intuitive.  The graphic foreshadows the flavor of the message, sort of the way I've taken to abusing Amiga.org's emoticons.

I wonder if the user can define his own graphics for this?

:-D With Screen Five, I see that the active window is a little lighter shade of blue, and that the scrollbar buttons have a bit of 3-D shape to them.  All the buttons have slightly rounded corners, now.  Cool.

Two minor niggles: the checkmarks are still un-anti-aliased, flat, (vector?) images, and the sizing gadget seems to be flatter, now, or maybe that's just me.

On the plus side, again, the brushed metal look seems to have been toned down a bit, by reducing the range between lightest and darkest shades.  I like it.  It's good to break up the monotone gray with a little texture, but not so much that it distracts from the elements or text in the foreground.  

Overall, the implementation here is done well, but maybe the blue is a little too pale for my taste.  Something between the two might be best.

Also of note, In the system drawer, I see tools to start, stop, and restart the USB bus.  That's curious.  And color me dense for not noticing right away, but the boot partition is now called "OS4:" by default, instead of "Workbench:" That seems appropriate, too.

All in all, this is shaping up to be a very nice default look for AmigaOS 4.0, out of the box.  This is what the new customer will see on the display model in the stores, and one never gets a second chance to form a first impression.  

:-) Hyperion can be proud of this.
 

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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2003, 11:29:45 AM »
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On the tools dock, there's an icon called "Access." Does this relate to the new file system, or is it just some application or other?


This is a "Docky", a plugin for the dock. In this case, when you press the menu button over it it will pop up a list of all screens and the windows on this screens.

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It seems that the right edge of the "Forward" button is chopped off, but that's just due to the window not being wide enough to include it. It it using MUI, here?


Yes, the window was too narrow. I didn't notice it, though. Yes, this is MUI.

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With Screen Five, I see that the active window is a little lighter shade of blue, and that the scrollbar buttons have a bit of 3-D shape to them. All the buttons have slightly rounded corners, now. Cool.


Well, screen 5 was me experimenting a bit. I tried different settings, like rotating the gradients so that they seem to stick out instead of carve in, a different activation color to match the background, and different button styles. That was all without exchanging actual graphics

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the checkmarks are still un-anti-aliased, flat, (vector?) images


High up on the todo list (the checkmarks/radio butons fall into the 20% not-yet-done range) :-)

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Overall, the implementation here is done well, but maybe the blue is a little too pale for my taste.


Well, like I said it was me playing with the color sliders. Don't consider shot #5 to be anything more than an experiment on how to see how you can customize the look without touching the graphics :-)

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Hyperion can be proud of this.


Credit for the look must really go to Matt and Massimo  ;-)
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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2003, 06:48:39 AM »
Screen 1  shows a pdf document, it gives something
about NOVA  API.  Is NOVA finished and will it be included
IN OS 4.0???? :-P  :-P
 

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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2003, 02:00:28 PM »
Still looking good.  However, I don't like the window gadgets on the activated windows.  Close is ok, but minimise/zoom/depth stick out a bit too much.  They may be better with a shade of blue rather than grey/white.  Looking at it again, with just close and depth gadgets they look good, but with zoom and minimise as well they are "too much".

I don't like the scrollbar arrows that are in the window borders, they are fine within the windows, but in the borders they look odd in "button look", they should fit in with the window border design like the close etc gadgets do.  ie. they look ok in AmiPDF and Notepad, but not in the drawer windows or - presumably - MultiView (which also has scrollbars in the window border).  Hopefully these are configurable independently.

I notice that FormatCDRW and Format are two separate programs.  Can you format CDRWs with the Format... option in the Icons menu?

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Re: 5 more official Amiga OS4 screenshots
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 16, 2003, 04:47:37 PM »
Good- finally a decent-looking default text-editor :)

Colonization looks pretty nice too. I'm glad they're talking about making posting U*ix apps easier.

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