Amiga Auction List Posted

[HMetal]

@Dammy

Don't you mean garnisheed, unless you think Mr. Peck would like parsley on his money?  :lol:

[amimonkey]

@Wayne

Are you that bitter? Is it the fact that nobody takes you seriously anymore that makes you lash out at anybody even vaguely associated with Amiga Inc.? What happened to the "truth" that was coming out but you just couldn't tell us about?

Not only have you insulted the "volunteers" (bullshit) that work for Amiga Inc, you have insulted anybody associated with the OS4 tour.

I just wish I'd spent the $175 for the plane ticket two weeks ago so that I could go and roast marshmellows over the rotting corpse that is Amiga Inc at the auction.

I really think you need to get out more mate. You say Amiga Inc have contributed to the death of the Amiga community... well IMO you contribute just as much.

I am now deleting my account at amiga.org, because I cannot bring myself to visit a site that is run by a webmaster who takes great joy in watching the demise of anything/anybody associated with a company that he has a personal grudge against, and who spreads blatant bullshit to fuel his own ego (I mean look at your avatar for christ's sake - is that in poor taste or what?) I used to have a great deal of reepect for you Wayne.

Feel free to bitch about amigaworld.net - but I prefer the friendly discussion there to the crap the amiga.org has become.

Adios Amigas :-)

Ian  :-D

-Edit: it appears I can't delete my account. Oh well.

[z5]

@Hmetal

However, Amiga has a lot to do with AmigaOS 4.0 and beyond. Most of it is behind the scenes, but that's okay.. you are allowed to have an opinion, even if it is wrong

Please stay away from OS4 as far as you and AmigaInc possibly can. If think you showed enough of your capabilities with the brillant (s)cam, which, as we all know, not only brought the whole OS4 project in a bad spotlight but also did not having anything to do with those very same companies.

that have not been released to the public (yet).

Funny that you put that 'yet' between brackets. It's all we have seen from you guys: coming soon now any minute. Is this the next next version of the dev kit we are talking about. Seem to have read it in hmm...let's think...it was in Amiga Active i think.

go hunting

No thanks, i think it would a bit too much time to actaully find anything.

Sorry to sound so bitter, but from here, AmigaInc situation looks really bad, you know that?

[Damion]

@amimonkey

As they say...don't let the door hit ya...

[Dan]

Who cares?
There is AmigaOS 4.0 with upgrades up to AOS 4.999999999999999999999999999....
There is MorphOS.
And there is AROS.
Tao still owns that Intent stuff.
Amiga is still a trademark of Gateway and Commodore and they don´t object to me using it.  :-)
So unless you
1) are a former employee who they own wages
2)are Hyperion, Eyetech, Genesi or someone else who wants to secure part the trademark.
3)want a t-shirt

it doesn´t matter.
Having said that i hope that Amiga Inc goes bankcrupt so the former employees can get what they are owed and that the trademark either is bought by Hyperion or reverts to Gateway and is keept unused by them(Gateway).

[HMetal]

@Dan

"Amiga is still a trademark of Gateway and Commodore and they don´t object to me using it"

Okay, let's test that theory.  Show me where you use the trademark.

[Dan]

Okay, let's test that theory. Show me where you use the trademark.

Oh, i didn´t mean commercial use.
But i have this Amigasticker at my tower and i also printed a t-shirt. :-D
I also have an A1200 it says Amiga on the casing of it and i use it all the time. :-D
Just look at this thread i used the word Amiga several times. Amiga Amiga Amiga Amiga Amiga Amiga Amiga Amiga Amiga Amiga Amiga Amiga.
I can even say that MorphOS and WinUAE let´s you run Amiga programs faster than an Amiga.
And you can´t sue me, isn´t that annoying?

[Dan]

Hyperion is doing a terrific job with AmigaOS 4.0. However, Amiga has a lot to do with AmigaOS 4.0 and beyond.

We know exactly what Amiga DE Inc has to do with
AmigaOS 4.0!!!!!
Pay for the name....

[Dan]

And a lot of MorphOS webpages use the trademark and get away with it.
 You didn´t buy the Amiga name from Gateway you just licensed it. So i think that Gateway can do whatever they want with it, they would be foolish if they made a contract to the contrary. They are a PC company, legal battles is everyday work for them...
I don´t know what´s up with that mysterious deregistration of the Amiga trademark but its probably because they want to keep it out of a bankcrupcy or something...

Maybe I should start an clothes firm, i was thinking of using the name Amiga. That way i could sue your asses if you ever released any t-shirts with the name Amiga. :lol:

[System]

@z5

Sorry, that's not what I'm saying at all.  If you want to buy OS4, more power to you.  I just wish, like you that Amiga Inc would stay far, far away from OS4 to avoid the corruption.

Wayne

[System]

@Alkemyst

1) What the hell are you blathering about?  I didn't call Hyperion, nor Eyetech stupid to the best of my knowledge.

2) If you or anyone else misunderstood anything to the contrary, please accept my apologies because that was not my intention.

[System]

@Ian,

Whatever.  If you're going to decide your future presence on this web site based on what you think you read versus what's actually written there, then.....  Have a nice day.

(If you re-read it again, you will note that I said that I "applaud the valiant efforts of Hyperion and Eyetech".  In my mind, I have little problem with either company.  My issues are strictly with the "management" of Amiga Inc and their constant scams, lies, and bungling of anything they touch.)

If you're going to hate me for telling the truth about their situation AS ALMOST EVERYONE HERE CAN SEE IT, perhaps you're right about the need for your presence.  

If you're going to hate me for my avatar, it would seem that I am not the one who needs a life here.

Before the door hits you in the ass however, ask yourself this....  How many verifyable humiliating problems will Amiga Inc create for themselves before you stop the apparent hero worship long enough to admit that there are problems?  Remember, admitting there is a problem is the first step on the road to recovery...    :-P

[Waccoon]

HMetal:  Amiga has plenty to do with AmigaOS 4.0 today, even though none of our guys are doing the actual coding. Check your facts instead of relying on old information.

What facts?  Where's the new information (besides the auction!!!)

Amiga, understandably, is saying nothing about their financial situation, because they simply do not have to.  The only fact is, they don't have to do anything.  And they've done a marvelous job.  What engineering has Amiga put into the AmigaOne?  Nothing notable.  They didn't even add a PCI card with a legacy floppy controller (in leiu of the A1200 connector that never made the cut).  They did promise custom firmware.  Who did the firmware?  Hyperion, starting with another firmware package.  What has Amiga done for OS4?  Give the reigns to Hyperion.

Given that the last executive update has been... a long, long time ago, the only fact I can gather is that Amiga Inc. started the AmigaOne project and gave their OS3.1 IP to Hyperion.

Wow.  That's a lot of progress after 3 years!

HMetal:  Hyperion is doing a terrific job with AmigaOS 4.0. However, Amiga has a lot to do with AmigaOS 4.0 and beyond. Most of it is behind the scenes, but that's okay.. you are allowed to have an opinion, even if it is wrong.

Way, way behind the scenes?  Amiga Inc. is under no obligation to tell the world what they are doing and how they are doing it...

...unless they actually expect us to pay for it!

[asian1]

Hello
This "forced" auction can be avoided, if Bill McEwen had a good financial planning and management. There are better ways to get rid of the unused assets.

If the cash run low and Amiga Inc cann't pay the rent, perhaps the remaining asset can be sold / auctioned by Amiga Inc BEFORE the rent deadline expired. Another strategy is to move and store the remaining assets in a warehouse / storage service (ie U-Haul).

This "forced" auction REALLY tarnish / destroy Amiga Inc reputation and proved the poor financial management at Amiga Inc.

Imagine if Amiga Inc financial situation improved in the future and Amiga Inc plan to rent new office space. If the new landlord find out about Amiga Inc "forced" auction, the landlord will demand higher fee or full payment in advance.

[dammy]

Poster: HMetal Date: 2003/6/14 16:44:23

@Dammy

Don't you mean garnisheed, unless you think Mr. Peck would like parsley on his money?

Hey, I'm just helping out Ben with his "illiterate Americans" statements.  See, I help out both sides. ;P

So what is left of Amiga Inc that is worth anything of value now?

Dammy

[Ohno]

@Wayne

Before the door hits you in the ass however, ask yourself this.... How many verifyable humiliating problems will Amiga Inc create for themselves before you stop the apparent hero worship long enough to admit that there are problems? Remember, admitting there is a problem is the first step on the road to recovery...

Why is everyone who opposes you or think differently than you an Amiga-worshipper? Yet if someone calls you a Pegasos worshipper you get insulted?
AmigaMonkey just pointed out that you are overly biased and he doesn't like they way you talk about Amiga. He prefers a civilized talk like people have on Amigaworld.net and the way it once was on Amiga.org.

I work on Amiga-Anywhere and I don't worship Amiga Inc., I think there were quite a few things they should have done differently, but even Fleecy himself says they made mistakes in the past. I do try to step in however when people are telling blatent lies or ridicule Amiga Inc. based on nothing (although they usually claim it to be based on facts).

And I personally don't see anything wrong with your avatar, love that movie. But I can imagine someone taking offence in ridiculing their way of life/their believes.

Regards,

Onno