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Re: Microsoft and AOL settle lawsuit
« Reply #14 from previous page: May 30, 2003, 11:35:56 PM »
IE6/Win's CSS engine is fundamentally broken and feature short compared with its compadres (Safari, Op and Moz/Ns).

As a css/xhtml developer thats highly frustrating. IE5.2/Mac on the other hand is a damn good browser (from the designers point of view anyway).
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Re: Microsoft and AOL settle lawsuit
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2003, 12:21:51 AM »
After reading some coments here (apart of few that I agree with) it seams to me that lot of people out there have lost their minds completely... I used prety much all the browsers out there and IE6 is the best one by far... Its the only browser that fully and completly supports the contemporary web content without gliches and compromises... So I just wonder what the hell is the problem...

Anyway just my opinion...
 

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Re: Microsoft and AOL settle lawsuit
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2003, 12:55:41 AM »
750,000,000 USD? Pocket money for microsoft that :-)
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Re: Microsoft and AOL settle lawsuit
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2003, 10:12:13 AM »
@ ogy

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it seams to me that lot of people out there have lost their minds completely


Ah, the good old "I have an opinion, people disagree, they must all be wrong" attitude.

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I used prety much all the browsers out there and IE6 is the best one by far...


Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but that's what it is.  Opinion.  There is no right or wrong in opinion, just in the facts that it's based on.

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Its the only browser that fully and completly supports the contemporary web content without gliches and compromises... So I just wonder what the hell is the problem...


Wrong.  here's one example.  Run it through W3C's HTML validator if you want to be sure that it is standards compliant code.

Can we quit the browser advocacy please? :-)
 

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Re: Microsoft and AOL settle lawsuit
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2003, 03:27:41 PM »
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IE6/Win's CSS engine is fundamentally broken and feature short compared with its compadres (Safari, Op and Moz/Ns).


I'm a XHTML/CSS "developer" too, but I've never had any problems with IE and CSS, it's been the other way around for me, Mozilla sometimes ignores correct CSS.

 

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Re: Microsoft and AOL settle lawsuit
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2003, 10:36:58 AM »
There's no reason why MS won't pay. $750 million is an absolute pittance. We're talking about one of the only companies that made an outrageous profit during the dotcom era & still kept it during the downturn.

What I am puzzled about is how AOL wanted this IE-for-free deal, and for *SEVEN YEARS*!.

I thought they had their own browser :)

Really this just confirms to me that Netscape and Mozilla really are still a crock of ####, no matter how much meta-wanking you want to do over the Open nature of the browser and it's Standards Compliance, it's still slow and clunky and going through another 5-year-rewrite..
 

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Re: Microsoft and AOL settle lawsuit
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2003, 10:43:49 AM »
As for IE being "fundamentally broken", you'd be sorely mistaken.

Internet Explorer's sole fundamentally broken aspect is the coders who maintain it: and how goddamned lazy they seem to be at coding and fixing bugs and adding sorely needed features. The inside of IE is perfectly fine, but it's going through a development slump I guess you could match on the Amiga with Voyager 3.3 :)

How long has PNG been an internet standard and how long has IE *not* supported alpha channels and gamma correction properly without invoking an ActiveX object?

The difference between Opera, Mozilla, KHTML and IE is that the former groups actually give a toss about the browser and making the web work for people. Microsoft don't care about the internet anymore. It's passé.

They've just changed their entire development strategy to "services people want" instead of "products we think people need", at which point people don't want "a browser" per se, but "secure shopping" or more abstract applications of the browser.

Basically: nobody cares what the logo is spinning in the corner anymore. Not even Microsoft.