S/H Cybervision 64/3d...please don't say it's DOA!!!!

[dandelion]

Ok..so a little update. After the advice to remove ALL the Cybergraphics stuff I had a bit more luck. Following that I reinstalled Picasso96 and rebooted.

Huh! It didn't crash. I tentatively moved my mouse - still ok. Dared to open up Screenmode - lots of nice new modes to play with! Chose one (16 bit 800x600), Saved, the TV went blank grey and the monitor showed a crisp, large Workbench. I allowed myself to let out a whoop of joy and then the computer crashed. Software Failure 80000004.

I was still reasonably pleased though because it seemed like a bit step forward. I started again, this time I made sure that I loaded Picasso96Mode and attached the settings file to the graphics card (went to the menu Attach to Card and told it to disable all the drivers outside of the hardware capability of the Cybervision. At least, I think that was what I was doing). Then, after saving that and resetting I tried again. This time the PC monitor displayed half an Amiga workbench before it obviously again crashed.

It is also flakey in standard PAL modes. I was able to run the Debug program and it gave a full report of the card so it seems to be operating ok which is a relief.

Now, is it the software or my Amiga 4000 which is the problem? Hopefully it is still a software issue but I do have Buster 09 (surface mounted!!!). Someone mentioned Cybergfx 4. I'm more than happy to buy it if I can be sure it'll work. Are there any time delay demos you can try?

[Matt_H]

09 Surface mounted? That's probably not good. Try switching the card to Z2 mode (Via driver?) and see what happens.

Or bring the board somewhere to have a socket put in...

Do you have another Amiga you could test the card in?

[dandelion]

Unfortunately no other big box Amigas, no. I know that the rev. 9 buster is a problem with DMA but I didn't think this would effect the Cybervision.
This is becoming a bit of a bind

[Gavilan]

Well...maybe is a little off topic this message, but...since you seem to have received a lot of answers...i had a similar problem than the one you describe. I have a A4000D, buster 11, new partition with no hacks...bought a second hand CVB3d, it was supposed to work perfect...but...i tried everything possible, and always same result: machine hanged up after booting or guru error...Every time i tried to use the Amiga on the pc monitor, my machine would hang up, freeze 5 seconds after booting or simple guru error...
Somebody on some spanish Amiga users list, suggested me that it could be that MY mobo revision doesnt like DCE CBV3d, because of a small issue of incompatibility... Your card is DCE or Phase 5?
Another guy suggested me i had Power issues...
I have another big box Amiga, a 3000D, but i only have 2.0 rom on that machine, so i cant test the card on another machine, and i believe that here in my country there are 4 or 5 active Amiga userss (amazing uh )
I hope this little info could help you in some way..
And yes, i gave up a long time ago since i couldnt make the card to work on my machine...i have it boxed again. I never tried again since that days, because i was very upset. (maybe after reading this somebody has a magial solution for me and my card works again??)
)
Anyway, if i cant make it work on my machine, im selling the card, so if somebody is interested, drop me an email!

Regards
Sebastian

 :-D  :-D

[Framiga]

@Matt_H

IIRC the CV643D has a jumper that forces to ZII mode but . . . this isn't the right way IMHO.

@dandelion

try to find the jumper settings, on your CV3D user manual.

Ciao

NOTE- "the CV643D works only with a mobo clock of 25 Mhz, so with some accellerator cards, couldn't works".

"SuperBuster 11 suggested"

By the way: you haven't yet answer if the card has the SD or not (very important for the configuration)

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[manicx]

I was ready to recommend checking your Buster version until I read the last few posts. Mate, Buster 9 is the cause of this error. Installing a graphics card in an Amiga is simpler than lightning a fag and can't go wrong. Having a clean install Wb 3.0 and still getting errors, only things that can go wrong is Buster 9....

[dandelion]

As for the scandoubler question - no, there's no scandoubler installed.

I can't think of many other reasons which would keep this from failing other than the buster revision. It heartens me that other people have had the problem (the Argentian chap's desription sounds identical). I think i'll just have to pull it out and stick it in a cupboard. I might be able to source another a4000 in the future which HOPEFULLY won't have the dodgy buster and then I can get back to having some fun.

In fact, I might aswell stick the Amiga in the cupboard  as I can only use with a scart TV which isn't much fun.

Before giving up entirely I might try the zorro 2 thing, see if that makes a different.

Anyway, thanks for everyones help.

[Framiga]

@dandelion

FYI even an A3000 with SB rev 7, works with CV643D.(Phase5)

Personally, i've used my CV64 (not3D) on my A4000D with its original SB9 for years.

Which accelerator card do you have?

Ciao

[Framiga]

@dandelion

take a look HERE.

There is all that you should know, about CV643D :-)

Ciao

[dandelion]

I have the 3640 accelerator card (the standard 25mhz 040 card).

Thanks for the url - the CV64/3D faq states...

" Q: Does the CV3D have a jummper for setting the card in Z2 mode when it is
   Installed in a Z3 machine?
A: No. " - which means one less thing to try.

The faq also says that although a lot of people have had no problems with a cv64/3d and a rev9 buster, others have found it rather flakey. I'm starting to accept i'm just one of the unlucky ones.

[Tajmaster]

Hi All

Its amazing, the Amiga has been around so long that someone somewhere will have had the same problem as you, no matter how strange! LOL

Anyway, I am having the exact same issue as the OP here and Im stuck as to what it could be. Heres the rundown:

Hardware spec:
Amiga 4000 Desktop (rev B motherboard I think)
68040 CPU (standard Commodore board that came with the Amiga 4000) rev 3.1
Socketed Buster 11
2MB Chip 16MB Fast
DCE Cybervision 64/3D MK2
IDE hard drive (I think its the original one Commodore installed)
Optical drive (on the IDE bus, its a Lite-On CDRW)
Kickstart 3.0
Workbench 3.0

Nothing additional attached externally or internally.

What Ive done:

I installed the CV64/3D (with great difficulty I might add) into the bottom Z3 slot. There was a network card installed in the top slot at this point (Its a LANrover card).
I installed the software onto WB as per the instructions (via the 2 disks that came with it, labelled as V3 of the software). All went OK and I rebooted. I got the same error the first guy got (exactly the same at the same time).

Troubleshooting Ive done:
Reinstalled WB from scratch, no patches or additions at all - no effect
Reinstalled the software (Cybergraphics) several times over - same issue every time.
Installed Picasso96 on a clean WB install - the board is not seen in P96Mode (I think thats what it is called??) and running the monitor driver doesnt bring up any screenmodes.
Checked Early Startup Menu, the board is identified everytime and shown working.
Changed Z3 slots - no effect
Installed CGX3 on clean install WB - no effect
Downloaded CGX3 and installed on clean install WB - no effect
Removed network card - no effect.

Im stuck as to what to do Ive only got KS 3.1 to try and Ive noticed a "map ROM" jumper on the CPU card that I might try and disable.

Ive got an A2000 Im waiting for a 3.1 ROM to be delivered for that Im going to try the card in too to make sure the card is OK but the guy I got it off (on eBay) said it was working, he has good feedback so Ive no reason to question him It was packed VERY well so I cant see it being damaged in the post and Ive checked over the board and it doesnt look damaged at all.

Does anyone have any ideas or something else I can try? I was going to buy some 3.1 ROMs from Amigakit but they arent in stock so that will have to wait.

Sorry for the long post
Thanks in advance
Taj

[Tajmaster]

I forgot to say, the battery was removed long ago and there is no sign of any leakage

[doctorq]

@Tajmaster

It's most likely down to your 68040 libraries. Update them, and you should get a better result.

And go through the manual of Picasso96, or if you would rather use CyberGraphX, update it to a v4.

The MapROM jumper and Kickstart version won't have any effect as to installing the software and get the graphics card running.

[Tajmaster]

Thanks DoctorQ, Ill try it right now

[save2600]

Someone mentioned their CV64/3D working in an A3000. Hell... mine works just fine in my A2000! I had terrible luck using the Cybergrafx software (even 4.xx) and the only way I could get it to work was by using the latest P96 drivers. 2.x... the one that, during installation asks to donate $20 or 20DM. OLDER versions of P96 did NOT work.

Try installing that and see if your luck changes...

http://aminet.net/package/driver/video/Picasso96

...and yes, you need to totally delete and uninstall ANY previous video drivers before installing this.

[nutyamiga]

I had this problam with an A4000 with a Prometheus Card and Voodoo 3 Card using Picasso96 and updating the 68040.library to 46.5 (date 19/10/99) Size 86,276 Bytes slove this and all is now OK.

good luck Steve