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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #74 on: February 23, 2003, 06:06:19 PM »
Hello,

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How can you say that Wine is not an emulator.


No not me! The Wine developers! The guys who CREATED it! I think they know better than you what Wine is!

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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #75 on: February 23, 2003, 06:07:07 PM »
@Mountain_Myst

O.k. you say cloning an API is illegal ?

Lets see: Years and years ago a company named Phase5 did produce
some GFX-Cards, and add a SW called CyberGraphics to them.

Those cards were very popular and the SW was used by many Apps
that needed more than 256 colors.

Another company named VillageTronic also made GFX-cards, but SW-
support for those wasn't as good as on the Phase5-ones.

What did they do ? The hired someone to write a driver system
which should allow their cards to run all those apps written for
CyberGraphics. How did they do that ? Well simple, they looked
at the CGX-API and recreated it.

The result was called Picasso96 ......
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #76 on: February 23, 2003, 06:08:15 PM »
Ok.

I see that this will go on and on.
Enough for me.

But don't be surprised if down the road, someone looks at you and says, "smile, you're on candid camera".

BTW...
Since I'm finished talking about this.
Is MorphOS open source?

Is the source code available to anyone?

Just a question...
Nothing implied.
 

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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #77 on: February 23, 2003, 06:10:17 PM »
Wine is not an emulator, because you don't run Windows in it
(like you run it in vmware, or AOS in UAE). You just run SW
written for Windows in it. Big difference.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #78 on: February 23, 2003, 06:14:27 PM »
Also, I take back all that I said about MorphOs being illegal.

That would have to be done in a court of law.

What I should have said is, " it is my opinion that MorphOS is illegal".
Because that's really what I meant anyway.

Sorry.
 

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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #79 on: February 23, 2003, 06:30:37 PM »
Mountain Myst, I think you mean what I have said before: that copying AmigaOS API was immoral, not illegal. At least, this is what I believe. That goes for all the other AOS clones/emulators.
 

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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #80 on: February 23, 2003, 06:36:24 PM »
Neither does the A/Box. Quark boots first, the A/Box
task is started afterwards.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #81 on: February 23, 2003, 06:41:58 PM »
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Mountain Myst, I think you mean what I have said before: that copying AmigaOS API was immoral, not illegal. At least, this is what I believe


Yes, I believe so.

Since I'm not  a judge, I cannot go on arueing about it.
But yes, In my view, it is immoral.
 

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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #82 on: February 23, 2003, 06:46:19 PM »
I expected you not to answer... How long are you
gonna keep this off the users' ears Mike?
People need to know the truth about the current
Amiga Inc situation.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #83 on: February 23, 2003, 06:51:19 PM »
Hmm, immoral... So and so, it could be called immoral.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #84 on: February 23, 2003, 07:04:23 PM »
@ AmiGR

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expected you not to answer...


Sorry for serving/eating dinner!?  You must believe I am married to my monitor or something!?  :-o

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People need to know the truth about the current Amiga Inc situation.


The truth is:
- Amiga Inc is very unlikely to bankrupt anytime soon, despite various damaging efforts by Genesi staff.
- Amiga will answer appropriately to Genesi's recent legal complaint.
- The issues Amiga Inc has with regard to the ABOX, are not the "re-implementation" of APIs.
 

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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #85 on: February 23, 2003, 08:02:04 PM »
well....


Hmmm.....


 :-o

No comment on that one.
I can't wait to hear what it's all about.

It won't surprise me whatever it is.
 

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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #86 on: February 23, 2003, 08:17:19 PM »
> - Amiga Inc is very unlikely to bankrupt anytime
> soon

Very good for their employees and lawyers then.
 

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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #87 on: February 23, 2003, 08:21:11 PM »
Where do all these evil companies come from man?

I think Germany has a BUNCH of them.

Boy, if I could just win the lottery...
Amiga Inc. wouldn't have to worry quite as much.
 

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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #88 on: February 23, 2003, 08:49:37 PM »
As I imagined... YOU DID NOT ANSWER.
*WHY* didn't McEwen pay his employee (I won't say
his name, you know him, I don't want to get him in a
flamewar without his consent) and *WHY* didn't he
show up in court when that employee sued him if
he did have the money to pay him AND the money for
the lawyer? :)
I you REALLY love Amiga Inc, you'd better SPIT IT OUT
before I DO! The remaints of this community needs
anything BUT liars! Yes, Mike, if you STILL cover this
story up you're no better than a LIAR!.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #89 from previous page: February 23, 2003, 08:57:57 PM »
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Yes we all know. Why are you always repeating? Is
this the only advantage these boards have?

People follows “the name”…
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