Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II

[downix]

I don't suppose you can substantiate this claim?

I offered to Mike Bouma on the other thread to have a 3rd party pul some benchmarks, provided someone is willing to lend their A1 to the cause... and have had no takers so far.  Got plenty of Pegasos owners willing to run the benchmarks so far tho.

[KennyR]

Mai not totally honest about their Articia? Welcome to the evil world of niche computing, Genesi. As Amiga Inc. found out a while ago, this market is just full of companies who try to sell off incomplete software and broken hardware. Maybe now you'll have a little empathy for AInc, if not any sympathy.

[System]

@ Downix

provided someone is willing to lend their A1 to the cause...

I don't believe any beta-tester would be willing to lent you their brand new AmigaOne-XE for this. They have more important things to do, like beta-testing.

However you could ask people like Ron @ Computer City to do some benchmark comparison tests using LinuxPPC (i.e. Debian or SuSE) for both AmigaOneG3-SE and PegasosG3 boards.

I do think it is funny, that you don't first ask BB to do the obvious, backing up his claims with some details.

[anarchic_teapot]

>So after all this time, they still don't have a
>bootable Linux distro ?
>This gels with what I've read on other forums

You shouldn't believe what Mr Hermans is spreading
around.

Sorry to burst your bubble: this was a post by a pissed-off Pegasos owner who wanted to use Linux with his mobo, followed  by a reply from one of the MOS team.

It wasn't even in a language that Ben Hermans speaks.

[Frodon]

Hello Rose,

I really wonder why I got a bootable Debian on my Pegasos. It's strange that I have a bootable distro as according to you and your speculations it doesn't exist. And you know I've got a bootable Linux on it since August 2002.

Next time avoid to speculate, you are not good ;-)

Regards

[Frodon]

Hello,

"Isn't this illegal? Talking about competitors products like this.  Remember the pepsi - coca cola commercials..."

Comparison marketing is legal in most of the countries of the world. I see comparison advertising on TV or magazines every day.

Regards

[Frodon]

Hello Mountain_Myst,

"Which they said was completly fixed.
Only to find out that, in reality, it was not fixed at all."

Don't speculate that it's not fixed at all. April 1 fix lot of bugs particularly the famous DMA bug and some others. Just see Peg1-April1 owners like Senex who never had any probs with his Pegasos.

Regards

[zacman]

>this was a post by a pissed-off Pegasos owner
>who wanted to use Linux with his mobo

Ah so it was you who told Mr Hermans about this.
But why hasn't he told you the reply he got on ann.lu?
There people having Linux on Pegasos for many
months now.

[Frodon]

Hello KennyR,

"Mai not totally honest about their Articia? Welcome to the evil world of niche computing, Genesi. As Amiga Inc. found out a while ago, this market is just full of companies who try to sell off incomplete software and broken hardware."

Sadly I've to agree with that

Regards

[System]

Hello Frodon,

Don't speculate that it's not fixed at all. April 1 fix lot of bugs particularly the famous DMA bug and some others

Well, now is really not a good time for you to be preaching MorphOS.
As you can see, there hasn't been people on here in the last couple of days saying, "Haaaaa, MorphOS rulez you".

They must have been a little humbled by the recent news from Genesi.

As far as the fix goes.
BULL CRAP!

They blew the hatch, man.
They screwed the pooch.

And it's strange to me that all this time, you've been away.
But now when people are starting to know what Genesi is all about, here you are again.

Who are you anyway.
Does Bill Buck pay you for your services?

And it's not speculation.
It's fact, btw.

and furthermore...
MorphOS is illegal.

But that never bothered me much anyway, as I don't see it as a real threat.

And don't give me this crap about api this and api that.
That's horse hocky and you know it.


Sorry if I sound rude btw.
I've had 4 hours sleep, my tooth is killing me, and I feel like someone just stepped in me.

So, I'm not being rude.   ;-)

[ple3003]

> Our G3 Pegasos performs better than the G4 Teron with the Articia.

Buck, on these issues, I trust you about as far as I can toss the Great Pyramid of Cheops. I don't suppose you can substantiate this claim?

This will be common knowledge soon (let the others understand this on their own our word will stand

As the man said, let everyone find this out on their own... if it's untrue i'm pretty sure *someone* will gladly post the results.  ;-)

[Frodon]

Hello Mountain_Myst,

Well, now is really not a good time for you to be preaching MorphOS.
As you can see, there hasn't been people on here in the last couple of days saying, "Haaaaa, MorphOS rulez you".

They must have been a little humbled by the recent news from Genesi.

People not putting "MorphOS rulez" everywhere doesn't mean they don't think it I'm myself a Pegasos user and really love it and I know lot of others users who love it too. In fact I don't know any users who doesn't love it.

As far as the fix goes.
BULL CRAP!

Well the fix was and is needed, at least with "old" articias, so it's a useful fix.

They blew the hatch, man.
They screwed the pooch.

And it's strange to me that all this time, you've been away.
But now when people are starting to know what Genesi is all about, here you are again.

I've a got a life you know I had some exams at my school the past few weeks. Yes I'm a student

Who are you anyway.
Does Bill Buck pay you for your services?

I'm a student in my life. Otherwise, like I said, I'm the president of a MorphOS users group (which was an Amiga users group before) in France

And it's not speculation.
It's fact, btw.

What, that the fix is useless? Sorry it's not useless. As soon as you can't prove it's useless, it's not a fact. All I can see is that thanks to April, users who had problems with the unfixed boards, doesn't have probs anymore.
Additionally even Eyetech Ltd have officially said the Articia S was buggy and need a fix. They got their fix, Genesi got their fix too (April).

and furthermore...
MorphOS is illegal.

Prove it. As soon as it's not proven, it's not a fact.

But that never bothered me much anyway, as I don't see it as a real threat.

And don't give me this crap about api this and api that.
That's horse hocky and you know it.

You can think what you want to think, but not say it's facts until you prove it. AFAIK you didn't for now.

Regards

[System]

What, that the fix is useless? Sorry it's not useless

Well pardon me if I choke on my porkchop here, but they are doing away with Pegasos One.
That sounds pretty useless to me.

As far as proving that MorphOS is illegal.
Don't have to.
Everybody with any sense knows it.

You don't need proof.
All you need to know is that it's true.

[downix]

MorphOS is illegal.

I'm sick of this statement...

If you've got evidence, show it.  Otherwise shut up already.  

This whole "MorphOS is illegal" crap started because of a non-programmer stating that he did not know how someone could clone an OS without having the original source.  Well, hate to break it to you, but more than one project has done just this.  

So, put up or shut up.  This song is loosing it's tune.

[AmiGR]

and furthermore...
MorphOS is illegal.
--

Proove it or lose all creditability you had in my mind as an intelligent curious user.
BTW, you're spreading the worse kind of FUD. How do people call people that do that? Right... "Troll!"

And don't give me this crap about api this and api that.
--

You remind me small children that close their ears
and start shouting "Ni ni ni ni" every time you try to
correct them about something. Where should those
children be held? RIght... in the kindergarten.

That's horse hocky and you know it.
--

As longs as you can't proove it, your head is horse hocky.
BTW, it's illegal to start claiming that a product is illegal and not prooving it. You can say that your
product is better than another (has been done by
both parties) but not claim #### about the legallity of
any product.

I will not accept any reply that doesn't answer all
questions as a valid reply to anything. Go figure.

[System]

Well, actually I don't care what you're sick of, and I don't appreciate you telling me to shut up.

If you can't figure out using common sense that MorphOS is illegal, it is you that needs to shut up.

You people are no better than H&P screwing Bernie.
Bernie had the rights to build Amithlon, Genesi does not have the rights to build from Amiga code.

And I couldn't care any less about the way you feel about me as an intelligent thinker.
I don't need your approval.