Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II

[System]

@ Warrent

I hope that Eyetech has a better working relationhip with Mai Logic.

Most definitely, stay tuned.   :-D

[System]

I don't trust Bill Buck, never did (since the daysof... what was it?.. Escom?...).

Though I don't know the guy, he allways looked dishonest and shifty to me, like one of those sneeky salesmen in some TV comedies.

And all these posts in the last few months - by him, his company and many of his "followers" - just proved me right, in my mind.

I can only be sorry for those who still trust him, and I'm also sorry for the Pegasos and MorphOS, which could have been a fine solution if they were in some more honest hands.

[jumpship]

We have purchased the remaining worldwide supply of the old Articias and will make 400 more Pegasos main boards with the G3 CPU. Our G3 Pegasos performs better than the G4 Teron with the Articia. This will be common knowledge soon (let the others understand this on their own our word will stand as testimony to our knowledge and skill)

I thought that the AmigaONE-XE was using the new updated version of the Articia's? What did they call it.... the new "mask" version?

@BBRV if you are going to say that the Peg G3 is better then the A1 G4 please back this up with something. Tell us what tests you have performed to come to this conclusion, what software you have used on both devices and what other hardware (gfx cards etc) were used so that other people can try to do the same tests and see if they come to the same conslusion.

[System]

@ Jumpship

Peg G3 is better then the A1 G4 please back this up with something.

I find it quite remarkable how most MorphOS supporters simply swallow Buck's FUD directed towards 3rd party products.

However provided the little given detail, it is of course possible that somehow they compared a 350 Mhz G4 with a 800 Mhz G3.  ;-)

[jumpship]

@MikeB

:lol: Could well have been!!

[AmiGR]

1) "MorphOS is illegal, they recompile OS3.1 sources"
2) "There are no bugs in the Articia S. That's what
people that buy their firmware get"
3) "MorphOS this and that"
... So don't throw stones while being in a glass house.

BTW, what would you do if bPlan did NOT find the
Articia S bugs? Gerald made the  fix MAI used in
the Teron board sent to Eyetech some time ago.
That's why he KNEW that the bug wasn't really
fixed.

[anarchic_teapot]

We need a bootable bundled distro and Mac-on-Linux.

So after all this time, they still don't have a bootable Linux distro ?
This gels with what I've read on other forums, but not with what the marketing machine has been spewing out. Still, it explains why the MOSsers have been dissing Linux - they don't have a sufficiently useable version.

[Senex]

Linux - they don't have a sufficiently useable version.

Nonsense. But Genesi is spreading FUD, eh?

[Senex]

Update regarding the distribution of the 300 new boards, exchange for Peg-I/April-2 boards, etc. at MorphOS-News.de:

http://www.morphos-news.de/comments.php?lg=en&cpp=1&nid=222&page=37

Personally most probably I won't exchange and will wait for the Peg-II, since I noticed no problems so far with the April-1 and think it's more useful if this way one developer more can get one of the last boards instead.

[zacman]

>So after all this time, they still don't have a
>bootable Linux distro ?
>This gels with what I've read on other forums

You shouldn't believe what Mr Hermans is spreading
around.

[Herewegoagain]

You know what is a scary thought, that maybe Eyetech may change plans too? I am not sure what to make of this Aritica chip??? I hope that Eyetech has a better working relationhip with Mai Logic. I hope that they were/are able to reslove any problems with the Aritica chip. If not then maybe they will need to change thier plans??

I don't think this is as likely.  The Terron boards are being marketed by Terrasoft for the Linux market, and Eyetech for the Linux and Amiga market.  The Teron boards and the Articia have recieved IBM's "Ready for IBM Technology" approval.  See link below.

http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/wired/alliances/mai_logic.html

So I don't think the Teron series will be disappearing anytime soon.  I do hope, however, that they are already working on the next revision using the newer Articia P bringing AGP4x and DDR among other things.

[zacman]

>The Teron boards and the Articia have recieved
>IBM's "Ready for IBM Technology" approval.

Yes we all know. Why are you always repeating? Is
this the only advantage these boards have?

[Herewegoagain]

Yes we all know. Why are you always repeating? Is
this the only advantage these boards have?

Well, I guess for the same reason you people keep shouting "The Articia is so buggy" and "It doesn't perform right".  It seems as though the Pegasos is the main system that is having problems. That was not a post to you but a reply to Warrent's post.  Skip it if you don't want to read it!

[zacman]

>It seems as though the Pegasos is the main
>system that is having problems.

Obviously not, otherwise other desktop/server
systems using the chipset would be out in numbers.

PS: According to KDH website: A1 XE 10/03 and
24/03, OS4 CybPPC 01/05

[Herewegoagain]

Obviously not, otherwise other desktop/server
systems using the chipset would be out in numbers.

Yeah, well, at least they are not crying because the whole project has to be scrapped and taken back to square one.  Of course, I'm not laughing at Pegasos either.  I think it's good they are moving on.

[downix]

I don't suppose you can substantiate this claim?

I offered to Mike Bouma on the other thread to have a 3rd party pul some benchmarks, provided someone is willing to lend their A1 to the cause... and have had no takers so far.  Got plenty of Pegasos owners willing to run the benchmarks so far tho.