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Re: Midgets Go to War: Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2003, 06:43:17 PM »
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>>Again this lawsuit is totally unrelated to Genesi's >continuous mentions of the fact that Amiga Inc >regards that MorphOS is illegal.

Nobody said it was. It's clear: "breech of contract".


Ahh my above comments were completely out of place then. I must have missed most of this new revelation.

Whatever, let them sling it out in the courts. If it was a pay-per-view event I'd watch it. But it is not so I won't sit here and speculate 'till the cows come home. I'd recomend others do the same. No sense in starting a flame war over something we have no inside knowlege about :-o
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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2003, 06:43:35 PM »
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I'm not comparing Genesi to Hitler, but I'm just bringing out a valid point.


Im sorry, I didnt get that point.
What was it ?
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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2003, 06:49:40 PM »
It was simple really.

Genesi looks good to some people, but looks bad to others.

While one side might think that God is good, the other side might think that Lucifer is good.

It's all in the way you look at things.

In my eyes....
Well, we'll wait and see the outcome.

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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2003, 06:50:34 PM »
wake me up when there is news of products...you know...stuff that you can buy in a shop...

As for Genesi ... they are rapidly going to the top in the "we have no product that works so we have to find something else to make the news" charts. If you continue like that, you will even top Amiga Inc themselves (and that is a big compliment as they are extremly good in announcing anything but real products).

What i find extremely sad about this whole rather pathetic situation, is that two companies go to court before releasing anything at all. I mean, i thought Gateway, Escom, Viscorp and all sucked, but this is even far worse

 :-(

What a pathetic bunch ... how sad
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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2003, 06:55:33 PM »
Hello,

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that two companies go to court before releasing anything at all.


Well so why I have friends who bought a Pegasos at a reseller recently? I don't call that anything at all.

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Re: Midgets Go to War: Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2003, 06:55:40 PM »
@ Zacman

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Nobody said it was. It's clear: "breech of contract".


Come on now, this was presented in the same misleading way as people are starting to get used to. By emphasizing something totally unrelated and then spreading FUD without mentioning any details on the true substance of this issue. (IMO = spreading misinformation and confusion)

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Didn't you want to post a proof together with a URL?


No, it was you who demanded this. The first time I publicly read about any legal issues surrounding MorphOS (the ABOX), this was written by Ralph Schmidt in German quite some time ago. Long before any mention of this at ANN.

I believe with all the fuss they are creating, they are essentially shooting themselves in the foot and are degrading the entire Amiga community along the process.
 

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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2003, 06:57:46 PM »
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In short, before you all go bonkers as usual, take a minute to think about the fact that you're acting on heresay and emotion


WHOLLY COW, its obvious Wayne's IN ON IT TOO!
GET HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2003, 07:00:27 PM »
Just move on and do the job, THAT would be impressive. But no.. they have to kill ecahother with papercuts.
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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2003, 07:00:32 PM »
This is madness.
 

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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2003, 07:03:41 PM »
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This is madness.
No... THIS is the Amiga community of 2003 -- Welcome... Enter of your own free will (and get immediately polarized to one stupid side or the other).
 

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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2003, 07:09:36 PM »
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Bill Buck knew that he needed OS4 in order to survive.


It's only rare that we agree, for some reason...and while I don't think BB needs 'hyperion os4', per se...I do agree with your post over all...OS 4 is a big threat to Genesi....

And this is a very shrewd move, but only if he wins, and if its a big win.

anything can happen, it could even happen that Amiga offers no resistance to the lawsuit and just gives over AmigaDE...I doubt it, but until we know more, we don't know that a lawsuit automatically ends Amiga, Inc, even if they lose.

I hope whatever happens, that not just that someone wins...well I will make a prediction that someone will win.....but that it is very decisive.

don't get me wrong, I think competition is great, but I'd like one of these two companies to move on to the next level of competition.
 

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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2003, 07:25:09 PM »
I'm sure it will be on CNN:

"Clash of the titans. Two of the biggest companies in computers, Amiga Inc and Genesi, fight it out in court over an extremely important matter."

Oh boy, this is too pathetic for words.

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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2003, 07:30:46 PM »
'No... THIS is the Amiga community of 2003 -- Welcome... Enter of your own free will (and get immediately polarized to one stupid side or the other).'

Wayne, I prefer to sit on the sidelines. I'd rather not have to, but I don't really feel like being a vulture and pick at the bones of my beloved platform.

4 more weeks and then we'll see a bit more....

Never though *AMIGA* could have so much DRAMA!

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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2003, 07:31:07 PM »
@NihilVor

Beeep wrong !!

MOS-0.1-0.4 did not use any AmigaIP on the source level, it
just needed to (binary) AOS that was linceced rto the machine
it ran on. Nothing wrong with that.

Does Genesi need OS4 ? I don't see for what as they have a OS
of their own, and simply don't target the die-hard "must
have the name" group as there primary customer.

What is a problem for Genesi is that the companies behind
OS4 are doing all they can to damage them, and that there aren't
getting 100% of the developers as long as OS4 still looks like
an option.

What do I think of this ?
Well 2 years ago some people decided that instead of putting
there "proof" in front of a judge it would be better to use it
in a dirt-campaign. Now they are getting back some of their
own medicine. Not nice but understandable, maybe even the only way
to put an final end to this whole disgrace.

I'm not even sure if Genesi are fighting for a win, or if they
just want to add further proov to whats been shown by the
death of Amithlon/Umilator:

AInc just can't even do simple buissnes without falling on their
nose and they couldn't even protect a bottle of water, let alone
their interests.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2003, 07:35:10 PM »
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No... THIS is the Amiga community of 2003 -- Welcome... Enter of your own free will (and get immediately polarized to one stupid side or the other).


I don't think that I am taking sides, both are as bad as each other. Something my mother also used to say when me and my sister argued trying to blame it on each other.

Lot of wisdom my mum :-D
 

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Re: Midgets go to War - Genesi sues Amiga Inc.
« Reply #44 from previous page: February 04, 2003, 07:44:18 PM »
@jumpship

Well IMO it would be fine if everyone would be light hearted about it. Unfortunately it always degrades into name calling and accusations. I'm talking about end users!! That's sad.

@Kronos

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