IBrowse 2.3 released, IOSPIRIT new distributor

[Ryu]

@Frodon
hey I respect your choice, dont get me wrong, I think you've got a bit of a communications breakdown

[Frodon]

Hello Ryu,

@Frodon
hey I respect your choice, dont get me wrong, I think you've got a bit of a communications breakdown

Ok I may just have misunderstood you. Sorry in that case

Regards

[Jose]

Er... I'm gonna buy it anyway but  I'd like to know when is the 3.0 version coming out...

[DamienMcKenna]

CSS has been an official W3C standard since 1996.  In 1997 it was made a core part of the HTML 4.0 Transitional specification and a mandatory part of the HTML 4.0 Strict specification.  In 2000 CSS was made a mandatory part of both the XHTML 1.0 Transitional spec and the XHTML 1.0 Strict spec (font tags were not allowed anymore).  It is now 2003, three years after the launch of XHTML 1.0, six years after the launch of HTML 4.0, and seven years after the launch of CSS Level 1.

I left the Amiga community in 1997 and at the time the lack of CSS was becoming a problem, I'm just amazed that it still is.

Damien

[Nick]

@Jose

Don`t we all.

[downix]

@Ryu

Simply having developer support won't help if the developers will not supply the necessary components.  

Damien asked an honest question about a long-overdue component that both AOS 4 and MOS needs to be taken seriously.  Even Cell Phones support CSS while no Amiga browser does.  I'm glad to hear that IBrowse is working on the problem, and I hope V's team is as well.

[Glaucus]

As a simple test I went to www.u2.com with the demo.  I hate to say it but the results were less then thrilling.  I really don't see why I would want to use IBrowse 2.3 when I could use IE 6 instead.  This to me is the major obsticle for OS4 and any future for Amiga.  I think AmigaInc would have had better results if they just made a real modern browser for OS3.9.  Yes, I think a browser is that important these days.

  - Mike

[System]

Very cool :-)
Just browsing through the changelog it looks like they've made a lot of improvements and bugfixes. Can't wait to get home tonight so I can try out the demo.

[KennyR]

Just one minor gripe...it uses an external command (C:CopyReplace) for its cachebrowser. That's quite messy. I'd prefer it didn't.

[KennyR]

Not everyone wants to use a PC to browse. Not everyone can. It's important to have an Amiga browser, even if its not the most powerful in the world. What matters most is stability and efficiency. Compatibility matters too, but its an unreachable goal with M$ rewriting net standards every other week.

Anyway, my own tests with IB weren't so impressive either. Javascript still looks rather limited. I'm still forced to use Opera or Mozilla on my PC for websites IB still won't load correctly. (I would never use IE6. I grudge the HD space it takes up and I can't even uninstall the thing).

Oh well, at least now I have a copy of IB that doesn't crash.

[SilvrDrgn]

@ Glaucus, DamienMcKenna and anyone else talking down about this update:

Development of major browsers, like IE and Netscape, is accomplished by hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people.  iBrowse is worked on by how many  A lot less!  I would be surprised if the number was over 10.  Now you tell me how quickly can a program as complicated as a web browser be developed and updated with such a lack of manpower in comparison.  It comes as no surprise to me that "current" feature sets, which change _daily_, are not implemented in Amiga browsers.  There simply isn't enough manpower to keep up.

I for one am very happy that the iBrowse 2.3 update is finally available.  In my opinion, it's interface is much better, and it's stable even when I keep my A4000T running 24x7.  I applaud and appreciate the iBrowse development team for their work!

[FuZion]

First impression seem quite nice.

Time for me to register I think.. Slow, I know, I'm sorry.

[DanDude]

[color=0000FF]YAHOOO!!!![/color][/b]    :-D  :-D  :-D

After ages, an update!!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

hehehehe  :-D

[Targhan]

I'm glad to see development continue.  There are still many basic functions that are missing, but to see forward motion is a good thing.

I agree with many of the other posters in their gripes, but I realize the difficulty in keeping pace with other teams with scores of programmers.  Hopefully OS4/MOS can get enough of a foothold to draw in some help for IB/V/AWeb.

[Glaucus]

@SilvrDrgn

Development of major browsers, like IE and Netscape, is accomplished by hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people. iBrowse is worked on by how many A lot less! I would be surprised if the number was over 10. Now you tell me how quickly can a program as complicated as a web browser be developed and updated with such a lack of manpower in comparison. It comes as no surprise to me that "current" feature sets, which change _daily_, are not implemented in Amiga browsers. There simply isn't enough manpower to keep up.

Well of course, but at the same time I find it hard to invest in an AmigaOne with OS4 when I'll be forced to continue using my Windows based web browsers for any serious surfing.  This is something the Amiga community really needs to address and Hyperion & Amiga Inc need to take steps to help this situation.

And as for the standards of which you speak, most of them have been standards for the last few years.  The web won't wait for Amiga browsers to mature, there are many web sites out there that have gone ahead and used the latest web features.  Amiga used to mean innovation and excitment, I don't see why we should now settle for old and stale technologies.  If IBrowse can't compete for whatever reason it can only loose.

  - Mike

[System]

Well, sportingnews.com still isn't quite right, but the javascript menus work now.  EBay doesn't crash anymore either.  In fact, no crash yet.  Much better than 2.2, but AWeb still displays sportingnews.com more correctly.  However, I think this leaves it at 3 sites a day I'll use AWeb for, and 3 for IBrowse so now it's even.  Heh, better yet, that leaves none for Opera or Mozilla on Linux.  I can now do all my surfing on the Amiga.