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Offline JoannaK

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2003, 09:46:06 PM »
Things like Dopus and Arexx would have been nice .. and some kind of printing support (like TurboPrint bundled on MOS) would be useful too. But besides that .. Not a bad list.
 

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2003, 09:48:14 PM »
Hmm, Okay, I've seen four different text versions already. I think A, Inc. should work on webbing releases too. Then we wouldn't have such a mad dash of duplicated effort.
 

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2003, 09:57:43 PM »
@JoannaK

Don't forget this is only the first release, but I agree, not bad at all!
 

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2003, 10:14:42 PM »
Such a lot of new Intuition features! I didn't think they'd have
time to fix up so much. Some nifty interfaces will be created
I'll tell you. Arbitrily shaped menus...
 
It also seems they have really worked to make stuff efficient.
ExecSG sounds impressive indeed (you people with better
technical savvy should be more appropriate to make that
assessment though), and all parts of the system API:s have
all these little touches to enhance speed and performance I
doubt many OS:es out there bother with.
 
Impressive.

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2003, 10:20:24 PM »
I'm only on page 7 so far, but I do like the way memory is allocated and managed.... I guess I should have expected nothing less from developers who write games for a living....

I'm going to have to re-read this like 5 times to digest it properly.

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2003, 10:21:21 PM »
I'm not sure if I care for them using both Reaction and MUI. I wish they would choose one.  I have a feeling they only included MUI to support IBrowse, which by the way is an OEM. I hope one is eventually chosen exclusively in favor of the other or cleanly unified somehow in AOS5.

Speaking of IBrowse, this is another key point I hope is resolved soon. It needs to be dumped in favor of a more modern browser (like Mozilla) or bought from the current owner and put under heavy development to bring it up to date. I'd like the see the latter for nostalgic reasons, but unfortunately unless OS4 is a smash hit, I don't see where they could get the money. Mozilla is the obvious choice. Put one or two paid developers/magagers on it, open up a CVS site and let the rest of the community help out. I think Voyager got snubbed because of the MOS support they are including. It's a shame. With a little work, V could be a excellent modern built-in browser.

I'm a little worried about what they did with DOS pattern matching. I thought it was just short of *nix regular expressions without being too *nix-y, which is what I fear they have turned it into.  I suppose this isn't THAT bad, but the old pattern matching was so elegant.

In all, I'm very happy with many of the features and I'm excited about the direction Amiga is headed. I'm hoping the weaker points are due to growing pains and will be worked out to make OS5 a serious contender in the industry.
 

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2003, 10:36:46 PM »
MUI is, as far as I know, included only to support the mass of
already existing apps that use it. Reaction has been "chosen",
-as you put it -waaaay back.
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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2003, 10:51:06 PM »
Did that really say SMP?  When did they decide to support multiple processors? :-o
 

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2003, 10:54:15 PM »
It will take time to read it through, but at first glance it seems to be very decent. Little negative if any can be told about the document at first glance. Maybe P96 is the only exception... (3 lines?)

Hope the product this feature list is about will hit the streets soon. The vast amount of details (especially ExecSG, which occupies most of the document) suggests some parts are in real mature state. Looking for a "playable" :-) beta soon.
 

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2003, 11:07:19 PM »
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Did that really say SMP? When did they decide to support multiple processors?


Well, one of the devs having a dual G4 could have
something to do with it.
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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2003, 11:07:31 PM »
You'r welcome Blomberg :-)
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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2003, 11:10:30 PM »
Good. Somethings are moving :-)
 

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2003, 11:11:22 PM »
@Ryu

Oh, I didn't add that, one of the mods must have done that, but thx anyway  ;-)

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It seems Ray has added a HTML version to the original site too, but what the hey - one more won't hurt  :-D

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2003, 11:15:06 PM »
Have you read this:
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Address space emulation: The system can emulate alien address spaces, for example
emulate an AGA chipset on a machine that doesn`t have AGA.

It would be nice if that would become real :-D
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Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark]...
 

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2003, 11:26:54 PM »
It was nice too se for non-A1 users of AOS4, that support for Mediator was confirmed, in addition to Prometheus! (Not that I wouldn't get A1 as soon as AOS4 is released)...

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Re: AmigaOS4 Feature Set: Release 1
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 13, 2003, 11:31:51 PM »
Hmm.. lets see:

The most important things:

PowerPC support       X
68K emulation             X
Native MUI                    X

Other good stuff:

Threads                                                X
Better handling of crashed apps   X
Clean DOS                                           X
ELF (not actually mentioned)          X
amiga.lib integrated                         X

Other stuff:

AREXX             - not native ?
Reaction         - The 3.9 version looks like a mess..
Printing           -  ?

Misc sniffsnuff here and there I dont care THAT
much about unless its bugfixes or speedups.

Now how about manuals.. printed ??
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