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Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« on: December 01, 2002, 07:01:00 PM »
Bernd Meyer has today announced that the Amithlon project has been mothballed indefinitely.

Source: amithlon.net

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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2002, 07:16:51 PM »
Well, there it is.

Thanks Haage and Partner.
You'll never see my buisness.

Nor will anyone else who tries to stand in the way of the "True Amiga".

You people need to understand that your evil plot is not going to work.
You can fight against Amiga Inc. all you want, but you're only hurting yourselves.

Go ahead and stand up for Pegasos if you wish.
It doesn't matter to me.

I know what I'm going to spend my money on.

Elbox, Haage and Partner, Pegasos...
Go your own way.

But I can almost bet you who the winner is going to be.

I don't know about the rest of the community, but I am quite fed up with all the dirty tricks and fighting.

Hyperion are professionals.
Bill McEwen is a professional.
Fleecy is the man.

Go ahead and go the route that Amiga has gone for many, many years and reap the benefits.
Bankrupt!!!

Amiga Inc. is finally giving me what I want out of a company.
One day, I predict that I will once again be buying amiga hardware and software just around the corner.
and I won't be ripped off with all the outrageous prices and availability issues that Amiga has had for years.

You are fighting a losing battle, and you will see one day, that I was right.( for once )

Hey Bill McEwen.
Keep the Amiga going buddy.
You're doing a fine job.
I hope your drive for the amiga does not lessen.
I hope that you are determined to put Amiga on the top again.
I hope that you are ready to prove all these cotton pickin people wrong.

Hyperion...
You take as long as you want to.
Make it right.
And show the rest of the world that Amiga is a quality product.

Thanks to everyone who believes in the true Amiga spirit.

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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2002, 07:18:49 PM »
Sorry Bernie, thats sad  :-x

Hope you can at least sleep better now and not have so many stressfull days.

I admit I never used Amithlon1 - and I will not buy it now.I was very interested in purchasing  version2. I've ordered my AmigaONE and will get OS4 but I would've liked to try Amithlon as well on my x86 box.

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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2002, 07:24:47 PM »
:cry:  '''Bawww-wahhhh-ahhh  :-( *sniff*
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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2002, 07:25:49 PM »
ARGH!

Well, that just figures, every time I take an interest in something, it dies!

Though I'm not a registered user myself (only just got it - SECONDHAND before you assume anything), I found it to be very useful in getting up to speed (and up *in* speed) with Amiga on my current PC - just to fill the gap until I can afford an A1 and as a break from the everchallenging Windows.
I was very much looking forward to buying 'Nameless' v2, but I guess that's something we will never see now  :-(

Too bad, Bernie - you had a great thing going there.

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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2002, 07:32:19 PM »
You know what?

If Bernie's health is good enough, I hope that he can build some killer app for the AmigaOS4.

Talent like that should not be wasted and thrown away by people like Haage and Partner.

But after all that he's been through with H&P he will probably just stay at home and relax.

Hey Bernie, your efforts were not in vain.
We appreciate everything that you tried to do for us.

Thanks man!!!

You are now officially in Amiga History as one of the good guys.
Congratulations!

But I really hope that this is not the last we see of you.
 

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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2002, 07:35:14 PM »
@monatimyst

Sorry to disagree again, but it seems that in fact Bernie did get
screwed by H&P only to be left standing in the rain by AInc for
over a year.

Add the PP to it, and calling McEven a "proffesinal" just
makes it to the number one spot in the joke_of_the_year list.

He could have gone against H&P last fall when the trouble started,
and a simple "ain't licenced" would have been enough, but he did
the exact opposite.

He could have sued them last spring instead of letting Bernie
spill the beans, he could have made his Sep.1st threats a reality.

All of this never happened, and so it was Bernie alone against
Harald and H&P.

"Amiga" has just suffered a fatal blow, and I don't think there
is enough market remaining for a recovery.
Earl Baltasar, Clanwolf of Takkatukka.
Merchant of the 2nd epoche.

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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2002, 07:38:58 PM »
This is such bad news.

No matter if you're pro or anti Amithlon, it cannot be denied that it deserved a place on dealers shelves. For it to end this way, when there is an obvious market for it, is utter sh!+e.
Although I'm not armed with any insider knowledge, I've enough gut-feeling to fully believe in Bernie's integrity in all of this, so I therefor have no doubts as to his rights to this software, in spite of the claims/threats of the others.
As far as I'm concerned, Hack & Patch, and Horrid Flunk can both go forth and multiply, it's just a shame there isn't a way to prevent them openly flaunting any kind of moral (lest of all, possible legal?) obligations to the IP they are currently 'pirating'.
Still, if enough people avoid contact with them, lack of funds may just drive them back under the rocks from whence they came.

-john
(thoroughy P'd off with a ruined weekend :~(
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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2002, 07:40:39 PM »
Quote
He could have sued them last spring instead of letting Bernie
spill the beans, he could have made his Sep.1st threats a reality.


And how are you supposed to sue anyone when you are pulling out of a depression yourself.
You know it does take a lot of time and money to sue people in a court of law.
And time or money is not something that Amiga Inc. has a lot of these days.

Furthermore...
To say that Bill McEwen is not professional is dumb.
Bill McEwen has done more for the Amiga than anyone has in 10 years.
He actually is putting Amiga in a position to make money again, and he is bringing to us the first real product in 10 years.

You have nothing but opinion to back yourself up.
But if you will stand back and look, you will see that I am correct in what I said.

Bill McEwen Rulez!!!
 

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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2002, 07:53:48 PM »
This comes as no surprise to me at all. I would like to say to everyone that made this happen, THANK YOU SO MUCH!

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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2002, 08:07:43 PM »
And even furthermore...

My brother had the great honor of being able to go to one of the shows and shake Bill McEwen's hand.
He met all of the kewl Amiga folks.
Something I've never been able to do.

He got everyone's autograph.
Even Petro's       :)

I only hope that one day, I will be able to go to one of the shows and meet these great people like my brother did.

And I would be honored...
I SAID I WOULD BE HONORED...

To shake Bill McEwens hand.

So cotton pickin'          THERE!!!

I would also love to meet the Hyperion guys.
And also Fleecy "the mad man" Moss.
 

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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2002, 08:11:31 PM »
Let me add a bit too,

The people at Amiga are very helpfull. I am not just saying this, but I had to deal with them on some issues and their response/help was super.

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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2002, 08:14:07 PM »
I am just sad ... or angry?
Don't know...

Mason
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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2002, 08:26:05 PM »
"nor will anyone trying to stand in the way of the true "amiga""

what kind of trolling are you doing here?!!? Jeesh.

Amiga Inc is just as much to blame as H&P, and you don't see me
swearing off of any Amiga Inc. products.  Poor Bernie got cought in
the middle of a storm between these two companies.  They are *BOTH* to
blame.  Whoever was right or wrong in the beginning is of no concern
now!  The only winners of this war is Hyperion and bPlan.

I can't blame Bernie for bailing, and I hope he has success in his
future endeavers.  Now, for the event-line:

1. Amiga Inc. sends a threat to Bernie.

2. Bernie, to cover his tail, informs H&P

3. H&P tells Bernie not to worry about it (they believe they have a
legitimate licence).

4. Bernie worries about it.

5. Bernie pulls the plug with H&P

6. Amiga tells Bernie that they will support him.

7. Amiga does nothing.

8. H&P does nothing.

9. Bernie tries to continue development.

10.Bernie gets fed up.

Who is the bad guy?  Amiga for making empty threats?  H&P for not
straightening out their position with Amiga?  Amiga for not retracting
the threat?  Yes. ALL of the above.  Do I blame all of these parties?
Only to a certain extent.  While each of the parties involved want to
make a difference for the platform and community, they are also
businesses.  They both have to meet deadlines, make the bottomline,
and all of the things that keep a business from going away.

I sincerely doubt anyone had an evil motive behind this; however,
nobody came up to bat with a way to really solve this thing that is
publicly known (and I'm public, and don't know of any).

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Re: Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2002, 08:36:46 PM »
Yeah, whatever.

I'm heading on over to distributers websites now.
And whoever is selling Amithlon right now will never see my buisness again.

If I have to buy AmigaOne and OS4 straight from Amiga Inc. and Eyetech, that's what I will do.

Today's the day to do something about all of this.
I, for one am not going to sit back and watch junk like this happen anymore!

Bye Bye Softhut.com
Bye Bye Compuquick
Bye Bye anyone else who does not stop distribution of Amithlon XL.

Softhut and Compuquick...
I'm letting you know right now!!!

If you do not stop distribution of Amithlon XL, I will never darken your door as a customer again.

And I'm serious.