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Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« on: October 01, 2003, 04:13:44 AM »
Which platform do you honestly think is a better system and why, the Amiga 2000HD or the Atari Mega4 ST?  Please, keep in mind that we are only comparing these two great computers.       :-D
[color=FF0033]1 Amiga 2500 / 040, 2 Amiga 2000HDs, Atari Mega4 ST, Pentium 4 PC, Macintosh SE[/color]
 

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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2003, 04:21:43 AM »
Wow, How Retro!
This is new, a Retro argument.
 

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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2003, 04:27:35 AM »
Hi Argo     :hammer:
[color=FF0033]1 Amiga 2500 / 040, 2 Amiga 2000HDs, Atari Mega4 ST, Pentium 4 PC, Macintosh SE[/color]
 

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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2003, 04:33:00 AM »
This must be what they mean by "an old flame".
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Considering where we are, can there be much doubt about the opinion...

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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2003, 04:48:45 AM »
Couldn't we just look this up in the archive of comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
 

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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2003, 05:22:24 AM »
What is an Atari Mega4 ST computer???? :-?

Don't know if anything out there can beat the Amiga 2000HD Professional Computer though.  :-D  :-D It's not like the toy Amiga 1200.  :-D
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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2003, 06:12:03 AM »
I prefer Amiga OS, Atari felt too clunky to me.
It seems faster to do things the Amiga way.
My Atari took forever to boot as well.
The toaster works on A2000 too.
 

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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2003, 07:44:43 AM »
I would say, for anything graphic, video, multi media etc... 2000HD, no doubt.  Audio, midi etc... probably the Atari.  I never owned one so I'm just going by what a friend of mine was doing with his Atari.  It is possible to do more or less the same on a 2000 but not "out of the box".  I would have to say though that the Atari was not nearly as professional as the Amiga 2000HD, definitely looks more like a toy.
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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2003, 10:25:59 AM »
I was forced to use Ataris in school. I never used a Mega4 ST, but never liked TOS at all. Hated it, in fact, so based on that I can safely say I prefered the 2000HD (which I owned for several years).
 

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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2003, 10:39:00 AM »
Hey Doomy! Where has your mil-spec helmet gone? I liked that avatar :-(

Atari for cubase

Amiga for everything else

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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2003, 10:58:41 AM »
Hi All

sorry for the semi-OT but:

Yesterday i've downloaded an A3000 schematics/user manual archive.

In the first manual page was written: "The new A3000 . . .a cheap alternative to the A2500 system".

Sound strange to me that a machine with in-built SCSI, newer design and higher performances, was sold as "cheap alternative".

Ciao

 

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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2003, 11:43:30 AM »
Although I never owned an ST myself, my brother in law still has one (a 1040Ste with 60 MB megadrive). As he stil doesn't understand computers at all, I had quite a good chance to take a look around.

I never liked the OS. Slow, no multitasking, small harddiskpartitions (about 16 MB max or so). I admit there are possibly newer & better versions of the OS for the ST right now, but that particular version of the Atari's OS did not even compare nicely to the Amiga's 1.x versions of WB/KS...

What I _did_ like was the nice black & white picture, the internal PSU and the ability to read/write pc-disks.

All in all, I prefer the A2000 for the better OS (even with 1.x), the great expandability without resorting to band-aids & paperclips to get it functional and the more practical housing it comes in...
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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2003, 11:58:43 AM »
mega st atari thingie, yes....i remember chunked it in the trash. i don't throw my amigas in the trash even if they are considered trash.NO WAIT! ...................yes that right, ok continue.
 

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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2003, 01:22:16 PM »
Oh no... Atari vs. Amiga threads...

 

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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2003, 01:27:14 PM »
Back in the 8-bit days (C=64 vs Atari 8 bit like the 800XL) I was an avid Atari fan with Commodore being the 'arch-rival'.  Back in those days the comparisons/competitions were close between the two machines.

When the 16-bit giants entered I balked at the Atari's offering...the Amiga wiped the floor with it.  Undeniable to even a devout Atari fan (and C= basher, back then) like myself.

The OSes, as mentioned, were worlds apart in fluidity with TOS being a kludgey, non-multitasking nightmare compared to Workbench.

The Amiga's OCS/ECS chipsets delivered rich 4,096 color HAM graphics as opposed to the ST's feeble 16.

The only advantage the ST had in my opinion was the inexpensive 1040 and 520 ST models which were (at least before the release of the Amiga 500) far cheaper than the A1000.

Arguably, this made those little machines ideal for the music field, being inexpensive and coming with MIDI as standard ports.

The MegaST was Atari's attempt at big boxing these machines, and in my opinion, was not anywhere near as usefull as the A2000 was at it's time (which in a sense, was a big box version of the A500).

The higher clockrate (8MHz vs the A500/A2000's 7.14MHz) 68000 did little to improve software performance.

Finally, the A2000 is a far more expandable machine as well.  If you really juiced it out, you could have an 060, SCSI, graphics card, ethernet, and even USB onboard.  I'd like to see an Atari MegaST come anywhere close to those specs...even the Atari Falcon only made it to the 030 cpu, and I think only the ST clone Hades is the only 060 based Atari compatible out there.  Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know a heck of alot about the ST line of Atari computers.
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