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MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platforms
« on: October 22, 2002, 10:34:22 AM »
By Thendic France on MorphOS-News.de:

In complete cooperation with Mai Logic, we have loaded the bplan OpenFirmware on both the Teron CX and PX. MorphOS runs well on both boards.

The Pegasos was developed as a open hardware platform right from the beginning; it uses a BIOS to simplify a port of any operating system to the platform.

This OpenFirmware is a well known standard (IEEE1275) and is used worldwide by companies like SUN Microsystems, Apple, Cisco, IBM, Motorola and others.

We will support any OS vendor willing to port their software to our platform and will allow them to use our retail channels to sell their products.

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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2002, 10:46:10 AM »
Oh My....

This is really great news.
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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2002, 11:23:22 AM »
Anyway no where does it say that other Oses cant be run on the Aone or that no firm can port there OS to it.

its just that the Aos must come with the Aone no matter what other Oses & SW is bundled with it. AmigaOS must be one of the products.

Just like the Pegasos, MOS must come with it.
 

the protection is not to stop other oses from running on the Aone, its there to stop Aos from running on other HW.

So infact the Aone is open, but the Aos is not.
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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2002, 12:09:22 PM »
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as this will create a distance between the user and the machine. Experienced computer users will never buy a dongle protected OS or program.


BS... I consider myself an experienced computer user. And when I buy officially AmigaOS4 supported hardware, why should I care about the fact that the OS only runs on certified hardware?

When I bought my classic Amigas *I did not care* about my  OS running on uncertified hardware nor will I do so when I buy an AmigaOne.

I do care about open hardware, and therefor this "news item" is very misleading. There is no reason why any other OS couldn't or shouldn't run on the AmigaOne.
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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2002, 12:42:07 PM »
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This OpenFirmware is a well known standard (IEEE1275) and is used worldwide by companies like SUN Microsystems, Apple, Cisco, IBM, Motorola and others.

So unless the graphics cards are specifically initalised by the OF, you can only use Apple-compatible (read: rare and expensive) graphics cards with the Pegasos? At least PPCBoot doesn't have that problem.

Quite honestly, if you've got an AmigaOne, you'd have to be a bit simple to run MOS as the primary OS, anyway. It's a bit like having a Mac and only using MOL to run Mac software.
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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2002, 12:42:14 PM »
"We have even thought we might put it in the Walker housing!"

Are they insane ?, who the heck would buy that piece of crap, it might have been understandable if it were the MCC, but the WALKER ??

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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2002, 12:42:27 PM »
So, they wouldn't mind a port of Amiga OS 4.0 to their open firmware board. Why do I see this as not happening...? Probably, due to all the flame wars we've had in the past about a certian board that Hyperion was suppost to get/have ordered/etc....
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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2002, 12:51:20 PM »
What's the difference between Open Firmware, which is what I thought the AmigaOne supported, and PPCBoot?

Yeah, it's kinda like using Lindows or Wine to run your Windows software.
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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2002, 12:57:48 PM »
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What's the difference between Open Firmware, which is what I thought the AmigaOne supported, and PPCBoot?


Simplistic response...
OF sucks
PPCBoot rulez

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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2002, 01:05:28 PM »
Lindows and Wine have nothing to do with it. The OF/BIOS/whatever you want to call it has one job: initialise the hardware so the OS can boot.

OF is in Forth. PPCBoot is in C. We know that the implementation of PPCBoot on the A1 includes a x86 emulator. We know nothing much about the Pegasos OF, which is why I keep asking. I haven't seen a straight answer yet (maybe that's the Thindick influence) and I don't think this excessive secrecy about the mobo  bodes well at all.
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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2002, 01:45:27 PM »
Yeah, seem to be their running theme. Be vague, don't give any real details. It's like Theodic/bPlan/Morphos are afraid that people will find out that their secret sause is just Ketcup and Mayonase passed off as Russian dressing..
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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2002, 02:23:50 PM »
??? I'm confused by this - we dont want dongles but you can add them?
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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2002, 02:29:41 PM »
@teapot

Whats the problem ????

It DOES run with "x86"-Radeons.
It DOES run with "x86"-Voodoos.
It DOES run with "x86"-SIS.

That's all that is needed as it is all what is supported by CGX_5
and even more than supported by P96 in the forseeable future.

So again what is your problem with that x86-emu ??
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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2002, 03:11:13 PM »
@Rose

Spreading lies again are we?

Pegasos has x86 emulation for card initialization.

So again, your point was?
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Re: MorphOS, Pegasos, PPC Operating Systems and other Platfo
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2002, 03:32:57 PM »
@Piru

Rose does not spread lies!!!

Can any of you (Piru & Kronos) find any info about features of MorphOS, or information about the Pegasos OpenFirmware???

I think not ;-)

So who should you attack, the open cool AmigaOS/AmigaOne projects ...
or the closed MorphOS/Pegasos projects???

AmigaOS/AmigaOne seems to be the most/only professional projects in this battle, and thats also what I'm going to buy!
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