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Offline Jose

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2002, 11:04:23 AM »
Ah finally good news:) Great news. If they only made a version for the A4000D
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Offline ikir

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2002, 12:56:32 PM »
@jose

You can buy an apposite towers with mediator pci and zorro3.

visiti elbox site. I think that is called Mirage 4000.
 

Offline Rob

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2002, 01:56:09 PM »
Elbox do have an OS4 licence.  Its mentioned somewhere on the Amiga
Inc site isn't it.  The only problem was that they hadn't sent
Hyperion the hardware.  Hyperion do however have Mediators.

Elbox have stated they are interested only in AOS running on their
products so it would be pointless releasing them without OS4 running
on them.

Also there is no point in Hyperion having a SharkPPC just yet because
OS4 has to be completed on CyberstormPPC, before work on other
hardware commences.
 

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Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2002, 04:03:41 PM »
@Rob

Do they ?
The only thing I remember is that they had asked for a licence,
but sofar there has be no final agreement announced and looking
at the way AInc would handle that news normally makes it clear
that there is nothing to announce.


@ikir
Sure there is a pic of the "normal" Shark, which may (or may not)
be just a rebadged Mac-accel, but there is no pic for the Shark+
which is also promised for Q4.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

Offline AmiDelf

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2002, 07:53:39 PM »
ELBOX have the Amiga license. Amiga INC' also said in the beginning that Elbox is a partner in the AmigaOS 4 development.

I wish Elbox all the best! They need it.
I love and respect people which care! And not those with
a heart made of stone.
 

Offline ksk

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2002, 08:28:46 PM »
I think we might be pretty close to the OS4 release for the AGA+PPC configurations...

(in Q4...)
 

Offline HyperionMP

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2002, 09:26:11 PM »
I have to go with Bill here.

Before we can make any statements regarding 0S 4 support for the SharkPPC, we first need the hardware and the associated documentation.

We have neither at the moment nor any indication from Elbox when we can expect to receive it.

Now it's conceivable that Elbox came up with some kind of WarpOS compatibility software but if they did, I'm not aware of it.
 

Offline ikir

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2002, 09:45:11 PM »
@Kronos
Also i remember a news like this on Amiga.com:
Elbox and Amiga inc working togheter for OS4 and behinds... something like this.

@HyperioHP
But if Elbox  send you the board, there isn't any problems, right?
 

Offline HyperionMP

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2002, 09:49:16 PM »
Frankly, I don't know.

Sticking a PPC card into a PCI slot which then takes over the entire system is not a trivial affaire.

Especially not on the A1200 version of the Mediator where all kinds of work-arounds are required to get it to work through an 8MB window.

We really would first need to see the documentation and the hardware before we can make any statements about this.
 

Offline ikir

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2002, 09:49:48 PM »
@HyperionHP
When i have buy Shogo, i asked you if OS4 will support Sharks, you reply yes..... 10 months ago i think....

I hope that you and Elbox find an agreement. i want to play my copy of Shogo.... was a present.... :-(

If Elbox don't contact you, you should try to contact they.... Amiga comunity must be strong
 

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Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2002, 02:27:08 AM »
@ikir

What I remmeber is the "licence-exec-up" where McBill wrote that Eyetech
HAD a licence (suprise suprise), that Elbox,Matay,Merlancia "are in talk with us",
and there was "no reply" by bPlan (again suprise suprise).

If Elbox had allready signed such a licence, it would have appear
in the latest exec-up (you can bet my hairy *** on that)  :-D

I think (fear) that Ben may be right, and that they are planning
some sort of WarpOS-clone, which would certainly be buggy and slow,
for everything except maybe PPC-games (which don't do many
context-switches).
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

Offline ikir

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2002, 02:39:55 AM »
mmmm

What a complex story!!!


read this:
Quote
Amiga Inc and Elbox Working Together for Amiga OS 4.0 and Beyond.

April 11, 2001, Snoqualmie, Washington, USA. Amiga Inc is pleased to announce a long-term relationship with Elbox Computer Ltd of Krakow, Poland. At the St Louis trade and user show on the 31st March 2001, Amiga Inc announced the development of AmigaOS4, the latest version of the high performance, user-friendly operating system that introduced multimedia to the world. To support AmigaOS4, Amiga Inc also released the Zico hardware specification targeted at PowerPC processors. Elbox Computer Ltd are working closely with Amiga Inc to ensure that their existing and future products will gain Zico certification, and thus provide a perfect platform for AmigaOS4.

'St Louis marked the beginning of the future.' said Bill McEwen, President and CEO of Amiga Inc. 'Key to that is the Amiga community moving forwards in a single direction, united and determined. With Elbox as a partner, another key Amiga company has joined the drive forwards towards success.'

'Our long-term commitment to computer technology is now giving tangible results in the Amiga market,' said Maciek Binek, CEO of Elbox. 'Now, with the Amiga Inc. initiative, we can see a clear sign of future-oriented thinking and strategy, a breakthrough for this computer. We hope Amiga will soon again become the common word.'

'Elbox have taken a major role in not just supporting the existing Amiga market with their many products but also in providing a path forwards.' said Fleecy Moss, CTO of Amiga Inc. "Our relationship with them will ensure that their existing customers can benefit from AmigaOS4 whilst new users coming to the Amiga will have additional excellent choices in the hardware that they can buy.'

AmigaOS4 is currently under development and will ship in Summer 2001. Elbox products can already be purchased from all major Amiga dealers, and their next new product, the SharkPPC+ will be available along with the premiere of the AmigaOS4 system.

About Amiga
Amiga Inc. provides technology to developers for writing and porting applications to a new multi-media operating systems which is hardware agnostic. AmigaDE is a joint development effort between the Tao Group of Reading England, and Amiga Incorporated. AmigaDE based applications can run unchanged on x86, PowerPC, M Core, ARM, StrongARM, MIPS R3000, R4000, R5000, SH 3, SH4, and NEC V850 processors. AmigaDE can run hosted on Linux, Embedded Linux, Windows 95, 98, 2000, NT, CE and QNX4. Amiga is based in Snoqualmie, WA, 28 miles east of Seattle and has offices worldwide. Amiga can be reached at (425) 396-5660 or visit Amiga on the web at http://www.amiga.com.

About Elbox :
Elbox Computer Ltd of Krakow, Poland is a privately held company that has been in business since 1982, and has grown rapidly from its industrial systems roots, now having a significant presence in peripherals, multimedia systems, high performance motherboards, enclosures, application software and general computer subsystems. Its products are used throughout the world and set a new standard in price, performance and customer satisfaction. For further information, please send an email to info@elbox.com or visit Elbox website at http://www.elbox.com
 

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Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2002, 02:48:48 AM »
@ikir
April_01 ???

That was loooooooooong before "the licence".
That was loooooooog before Hyperion had any thing to do with OS4 (atleast officially).
That may have been before H&P was involved in OS4.
It could allmost be the time when they were trying to use that other OS as OS4  :-o

Also:
I'm sure that one of the main points of "the licence" is that
Hypeiom gets HW & docs, and you have heard Ben's words on that ?
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

Offline ikir

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2002, 02:54:11 AM »
sad story....

OS4 must run on Shark, PegasOS bla bla bla.....

the market are so small that we can't miss Elbox or bPlan.....

I'll never buy an new A1. If Shark will run on  OS 3.9 i'll buy it too and i play with SHOGO via WarpOS.
 :-(  :-(  :-(  :-(  :-(  :-(  :-(  :-x  :-x  :-x  :-x  :-(  :-(  :-(  :-(  :-(  :-(
 

Offline Valan

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2002, 04:31:22 AM »
@HyperionMP,

With the current state of the Amiga market it is understandable why a company will not/ or connot afford to send a card out to be tested.

Is it unreasonable or impossible to make Elbox a beta tester for OS4?

In this way Elbox knows it is compatible and so does the amiga comunity and Hyperion/Amiga Inc. More SharkPPCs will be sold along with more OS4s to run on them.

Just a thought
Valan