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Offline hnl_dk

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2002, 08:59:16 AM »
I think the SharkPPC+ G3/G4 might be the card Elbox believes might run AmigaOS 4.0, or what :-?

It looks like it might use the same chipset as the AmigaOneG3-SE
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Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark]...
 

Offline Elektro

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2002, 09:03:44 AM »
Yeah ram on this shark is only 582 MB/s, however 64bit*133MHz = 1064 MB/s.
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Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2002, 09:07:05 AM »
@hnl_dk

How do you come to that conclusion ??

But what I see as really funny:

"Shipping status: Q4 2002"


"Photo not available"

So they say that they gone have a working HW/SW package out in less
than 4 month, but still they don't even have a proto for a promo ?

Also remember that both versions will need special SW to redirect
access back to the Axx00-mobo, and that this SW has to be
tighltly intregrated with ExecSG ....
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

Offline ikir

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2002, 09:11:08 AM »
"Photo not available"

I see the photo... :-?



@elektro

It isn't the ram speed, but the speed between the pci card and the sharks. and it is very high!!
 

Offline Elektro

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2002, 09:15:05 AM »
Well it says: 'peak memory transfer rate', sounds like ram to me...
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Offline ikir

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2002, 09:19:48 AM »
mmm...

I think that pci transfer rate is measured in memory speed.

"Memory speed between PCI card is 128Mb/s".... ecc ecc
 

Offline ikir

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2002, 09:20:41 AM »
66MHz PCI clock (transfer rate up to 264MB/s)

Pci has a memory window setting.
 

Offline createcoms

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2002, 09:33:37 AM »
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Let's face reality: You've got no clue what you're talking about. You're just guessing.


Well HE may have been guessing, but he was right and I'm not guessing.  

Also,
Even IF ELBOX makes a kludgy compatability mode so that the A1 HAL runs the Shark, it will not be optimal, well not as much as if ELBOX sends their HW to Hyperion and gets the OS4 license, etc.
 

Offline createcoms

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2002, 09:36:17 AM »
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It isn't the ram speed, but the speed between the pci card and the sharks. and it is very high!!


No, your're wrong.  It is well known that a 66mhz, 32-bit PCI bus does the 26x mb/sec transfer rate.  The memory is the 5xx mb/sec figure.  I feel that this transfer rate will provide enough *juice* for the G3 processor.
 

Offline ikir

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2002, 09:39:56 AM »
Are you sure?
Is the ram speed??
Is 528 slow?



 :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?
 

Offline jaokim

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2002, 10:11:57 AM »
Hmmm... It is a PCI-card, right? Wouldn't it be possible to make it work in anything with a PCI-slot. Since it doesn't use the 68k(?) it would be possible?
Please, enlighten me.
:-?  :-?
 

Offline ikir

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2002, 10:19:34 AM »
@jaokim

it "should" run on OS4 without 68k. But actually we don't know if OS will support it.

It may run Linux too.
 

Offline ikir

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2002, 10:20:48 AM »
@jaokim

it works on mediator pci-busboard.
 

Offline Nybbler

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2002, 10:35:04 AM »
@jaokim
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Hmmm... It is a PCI-card, right? Wouldn't it be possible to make it work in anything with a PCI-slot. Since it doesn't use the 68k(?) it would be possible?


That's a good point. If it's not somehow tied to the mediator hardware then maybe it could be used to revive the Siamese PCI (?) project, and we could have an Amiga on a card in a PC, just that now it'd be a PPC one instead of a 68k one (the Siamese PCI was going to be 68k, right?:-?) . Of course then it could be bundled as a PowerMac emulator given a Linux distro and MOL  :-)
Rob
 

Offline Troels_E

Re: SharkPPC news
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2002, 10:54:27 AM »
@Ikir

I think Joakim ment if it could run without the Mediator in a PC or MAC for example.

If you could just add this card to your PC and be able to run OS4 (and who knows, maybe macos?) it would be a huge seller (in Amiga terms).  I know lots of PC (old Amiga) users that would love to spend a little money on a PCI card that would let them run OS4.

Could the version with USB and IDE controller work as a stand alone computer in combination with the Mediator (working without the Classic Amiga)?

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