Quake2 AmigaOS-port finally released

[Hammer]

second reason is that quake2 is damn bloaty, way to big.... Just look at the games made for n64, most games wasnt even 20megs big, still was amazing....

N64’s texture maps are blurry compared with the original PC releases.

[GadgetMaster]

Come on guys!

A little calmness never hurt anyone.

To keep a balanced view in any circle you need both supporters and critics .

Both sides should express their views without getting too personal.

Enough said.

[odin]

/me runs to the chemists for some tranquilizers and Vitamin C for wayne.

Get well :-D.

[Tomas]

N64’s texture maps are blurry compared with the original PC releases.

Yeah blurry compared to todays games, n64 is now outdated, no fancy 3d card or anything.....

Still dosent justify 2gigs more...

[Tomas]

is it just me or did posts just magically dissapear??

Had 41 posts when i checked earlier, now 32?

[Kay]

> is it just me or did posts just magically dissapear??
>
> Had 41 posts when i checked earlier, now 32?

It's not just you...a lot of posts just went AWOL. I would really like to know why...

Kay

[amigacooke]

Yes, you're right. I think the heat generated by the discussion evaporated the posts  ;-)

While I appreciate Wayne's frustrations, if he doesn't like the hardware, if he's not keen on the software, if there will be no future application support, if other platforms do the job better and we should all switch over, why does he run a web site for a community that will cease to exist if we follow his line of thinking?  :-)

[System]

Note: a lot of this thread was removed, by me since I started it and I am ultimately responsible.  This was done because apparently, once again, my personal opinion is not in the best interest of this niche, hobbyist community.

It would appear that this community is content to just glide along in historical memory.  Content to be nothing more than a hobby and a memory.   Content to be a niche and not an industry leader again.

In the aforementioned threads, I expressed my concerns (albeit rabidly) that I am NOT in agreement with the currently displayed direction that Amiga Inc (and it's hobbyist company partners) are taking with it's dead-end AmigaOS and the antiquated PPC known as AmigaOne.  I did this, only to be shouted down by the bleeting of the cheerleading sheep squadron.

That's fine, and understandable.  It is after all, your hobby and in fact, your community, but you can each consider me supremely disappointed that you have no real concept or interest in "Amiga" being a revolutionary force in the computing world again.

I will, henceforth, stop openly sharing my opinions with the members of this site, as it's painfully obvious to me that most of you are content with the dead-ended future shoved down your throats by a certain consortium who believes that they own, operate, and run Amiga Incorporated in spite of Bill McEwen's presence.

I consider it even more painful and disheartening that this community is no longer interested in listening to reason without shouting down the messenger of said reason.  I now understand why the larger part of this community has either gone, or is standing very quietly on the outermost fringe looking at us with little more than pitiable interest.  

Most painfully of all is the fact that over a single weekend, I feel that I have lost something dear to me, and that is the ability to speak my own mind on my own site.

So, in the best interest of serving the community, please don't ask my opinion any more, because it's a damned clear point that "you" aren't interested in hearing anything that I (or any realists) have to say.  

With that, it appears that Amiga.org has been taken over by the zealots, in direct contrast to sites such as ANN who've been taken over by the "heretics".  I cannot say for certain, which I think is a worse fate.

Me?  I'm just going to be standing over in the corner with that same look of interest at the goings-on around me.  Sad that reason is no longer welcome here.

[Kay]

You got the last word on that one Wayne. At least your opinions won't be moderated away. I will not repeat mine, as they would probably be removed again. Just make a note that as far as I'm concerned, the argumentation in this thread is no longer balanced.

The end. (really)

Kay

[System]

@kay

You're welcome to say anything you like.  I had no intentions of "moderating away" your viewpoint, I simply have no way to delete a post (mine) without automatically deleting every child -- meaning reply --post.  In light of the ensuing argument, I thought it best to simply remove the source.  As site owner, I have that priviledge.

{edited per input from Kay}

[Kay]

@Wayne:

Your last post is untruthful. I accept your explaination for deleting my posts. Your interpretation of my opinions is wrong however. Simple remedy: Delete the post. This post is a reply, and will be removed along with it.

Kay

[amigacooke]

To be realistic although the solution that is offered is not ideal, against the dominant position that Microsoft holds, I do not think there is a choice that could enable Amiga to mount a viable challenge.  

It's too late now.

[System]

It's too late now.

I politely disagree.  It will just take a direction change (and cash infusion) on Amiga Inc's part to concentrate on the right decisions to move us to the future, not wasting money, time, and resources clinging onto the past.

It will also take a community that is willing to accept and embrace change.  This is not something the Amiga community is willing to do.

[System]

@kay

So now you WANT me to delete your posts?

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[Tomas]

i have nothing against ppl expressing their views, after all this is a discussion board..... But act like you know all, we dont know a ####, just because he/she has a different view than you, that pisses me off.

If you like windoze, then sick with it, no need to call us who use amiga and believe in it dumb...