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MorphOS statement about its legal status
« on: September 02, 2002, 09:43:40 AM »
Source: Morphos-news.de

02-Sep-2002:
There have been many rumours regarding MorphOS and its legal standing. After careful consideration, we have concluded that those allegations are unfounded, those most frequently raised being the following two.

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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2002, 10:28:50 AM »
Wow, Who'da thunk that they would say that... Then again, Who is "All of us..."?
 

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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2002, 10:55:03 AM »
I bet we would have new/finished Amiga related products in hand if these guys would "just get along" and channel thier thought an energy into the products and not wasteful argument, and litegation.  :-?
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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2002, 11:12:50 AM »
@Fozzy

Nah we can't have that !

Atleast not as long as we have Bill, Bill, fleecy, Ben, Ralph,
Hans-Jörg, Steffen, Harald, Gary, Alan, Gerald, Jürgen .....
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2002, 11:38:01 AM »
"fighting useless battles"

Idont know about You, but Im getting tired of this.

It cannot be good with all this negativity, thrown
from one side to the other and back again forever.

Or maybe this is all a game of hockey.

And we are the spectators.

Bring on the beer.
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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2002, 11:38:10 AM »
Huh? I don't get it.
Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2002, 11:42:20 AM »
@red

if youre referring to *my* post, Im just very negative
comming from ANN, reading about this and all that
swirls up with it.
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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2002, 01:36:27 PM »
@blubbe

hehe no I was not refering to your your post:-P

I don't get what Thendic think they will accomplish with this statement.
Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2002, 04:06:10 PM »
yes let's have several companies fighting over a few thousand users yes yes indeedeeee dodley dooo..

what genious!! remarkable, unbeliveable...
what strategy, what (put something ÜBER here)!!!

Oh the amiga!!!!!!!!

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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2002, 07:08:48 PM »
> It has often been said that MorphOS is based on
> stolen source code.

It is often said that the MorphOS team illegally used Amiga owned source code to implement their AmigaOS compatibility. That's an important difference IMO, as when MorphOS was based on Amiga IP MorphOS would be *fundamentally* an illegal product, howver in the other case the illegal components could be removed.

> Unfair Competition

LOL, I think not many people are claiming that. But of course bPLan must make it very clear that their Pegasos and MorphOS products are not Amiga products. There was alot of confusion with regard to that in the past due to bPlan not being clear enough. For instance a german TV show was about to demonstrate the Pegasos as the new Amiga, that can of course never be allowed to happen, they would  have needed to buy Amiga's IP for millions of dollars from Gateway themselves for that to happen!
 

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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2002, 08:40:39 PM »
Thats interesting, a tacit admission that OS3.1 sources
were used but the claim is that those were "freely given".

Been down this road before and unless that was "freely given"
with a watertight written agreement that these could be used to
develop a new product thats going to be nasty grounds to
try and fight.

All those people that claimed that MorphOS DIDNT use
AOS sources at any point now look a bit stupid.

Whether or not it was illegally used is up for dibs in court.

Anyone for popcorn and softdrinks? :-D
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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2002, 08:40:40 PM »
@MikeB

BPLan never said that they were the new "Amiga" to get to that
show, that was a mistake made by 3/Sat, and yes that has been
confirmed by 3/Sat(ZDF).

Shouting "illegal" in public forums without ever delievering any
proof is unfair competition, and if AInc/Ben can't proove
their accusations then they can be sued over them.

And yes both McBill and Ben have been talking about stolen
sources (and a whole lot of other things), and that is what
they have to proove.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2002, 08:42:40 PM »
@DaveP
I don't think they mean the 3.1 sources, but stuff from
(3rd party) books and AROS, which has been accepted by the
various owners of name for the last 10 years.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2002, 08:45:18 PM »
I read the first "point" , fell about laughing, and read no further.

Since when is "why would anyone do that?" proof of innocence, or anything else?

Example:
We're currently - as a species - consuming the resources on this planet at such a speed that it would require 1.4 Earths to allow us to do this indefinitely. That's an average, of course: some people consume rather more (if you're reading this you're almost certainly amongst those who consume well over 2 Earths, probably 2.5 to 3  - I got down to 2.1 in the test by switching off as many electrical appliances as possible and going vegetarian. And I don't heat much in winter).

So we're burning up the resources on our planet faster than they can be renewed. That's stupid. Why would anyone want to do that?
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Re: MorphOS statement about its legal status
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2002, 08:47:54 PM »
@Kronos

I realise you are just giving me your opinion but i am sceptical
about your conclusions.

1. Doesnt tally with the statement. They say blessing of company.
AROS != Company. If they had meant AROS they would have
said "other sources with the blessing of the company".

2. Which books contain the OS3.x sources?  There are really OLD books out there one of which if
I recall contains the OS1.2 source code - well most of it
but the revisions 1.3->3.0 make this almost useless.


PS:
I thought you were in a different league to Cheesegrate but
I see you using "name" a lot as a veiled insult and here again.
Don't you think it is going to get people riled up on a thread that was always
going to be sensitive and might end up as a useless flame war?
I realise you mean it as a joke but a joke oft repeated loses
its humour.
Hate figure. :lol: