Pegasos Gothenburg Show 2002 announced

[samface]

But sofar they have delieverd zero evidence, and I doubt they ever will.

But then, you're hardly involved in this case at all, now are you? How could *you* possibly know anything about their evidence at all?

[samface]

If AInc fails to stand up to the competiton, than they will die

But then, we don't even know if we can classify them as competition or "IP thieves" yet, now do we?

You know, the simple fact that their legal status is questionable is enough for most people to not be willing to invest their money in it. Ontop of that, if the owners of the brand has slim chances of making it regardless of how impressive product they sell, what does that tell you about the chances for a clone to that brand? Just something to think about, a point of view if you like.

[AmiGR]

Well now I'm 100% sure. You're TOTALLY insane:)

[AmiGR]

Gosh! The foundementals are the same. This is the
most common way to run legacy applications after
hardware emulation.

[AmiGR]

Yeap, while you know every single piece of evidence and are sure that they will win  :-)

[samface]

Yeap, while you know every single piece of evidence and are sure that they will win

I never claimed that the facts I have been pointing at would be any kind of evidence that will be used in this case. All I'm saying is that certain things are so obvious for anyone to see that denying it is pointless.

[AmiGR]

Well, it seems that your propaganda worked so far.
You managed to make enough peeople worry about MorphOS' legality and even more hate it.
Anyway, people believing you should visit a doctor :-)

[samface]

[sarcasm]

I believe the MorphOS website states that their product is an Amiga next-genearation PPC OS. Tell me doctor, what should I do? Is it a disease that can be cured?

[/sarcasm]

[AmiGR]

I believe you should be enclosed in a sanitarium cause:
1) It never was in the MorphOS website, it was in a
newsnet posting by Ralph Schmidt.
2) Anyone is entitled to make a Next Generation PPC
OS for Amiga computers, cause that's how any sane
man would interprete that.

Amiga (for Amiga computers, so it's true) Next Generation (marketing sttuff, most companies announce their OSes as "next generation" OSes
anyway) PPC (it runs on the PPC processor)
OS (it is an operating system, isn't it?).
There is nothing from these you can interprete differently. And *YES* it *DOES* run on *AMIGA* computers. The *ONLY* Amiga computers currently
available to the users are the "dead' Amigas.
It doesn't matter how much you jump up and down
crying, it runs on *COMMODORE AMIGA HARDWARE*.

[Kronos]

*COMMODORE AMIGA HARDWARE*.

Plus:

*ESCOM AMIGA HARDWARE*

And probraly:
*EYETECH AMIGA HARDWARE*

[samface]

It never was in the MorphOS website, it was in a newsnet posting by Ralph Schmidt.

That's odd, this URL works for me:

http://www.morphos.de/files/pressancdec2399.txt

Perhaps you should check your network settings?

Anyone is entitled to make a Next Generation PPC OS for Amiga computers, cause that's how any sane man would interprete that.

The phrase "next-generation" refers to something beeing the successor of a previous version. What's the previous version of MorphOS? Well, let's stop arguing about it and read it stated even more clear at this URL:

http://www.morphos.de/files/morphos_overview11-Apr-00a.txt

I quote the highlight:

> ...will bring you now what you`ve always wished
> for....
> AmigaOS running on PPC in 2000

it runs on *COMMODORE AMIGA HARDWARE*

Nope, it runs on Phase5 PowerUp boards.

[AmiGR]

Ehm, do the Phase5 PPC accelerator boards work
without the Amiga hardware? Yes, it runs on the
Amiga hardware, like OS4 does/will. Except if you
say the same about OS4 too:)(that it doesn't run on
Amiga hardware minus AmigaONE, it only runs on
P5 PPCs). Sorry, you're nuts. You're totally nuts.

[AmiGR]

Ehm, do you know anything about Operating System
generations? Bah, I don't think you do... If you did you
wouldn't even mention that...

As for the AmigaOS running on PPC part, MorphOS
was just an emulator back then.... It just emulated
the 68k. So yes, it did run AmigaOS 68k on PPC in
the year 2000, up to version 0.4. It just patched parts
of the OS to make it run on the emulator without
the need to emulate the custom chipset.

[samface]

Ehm, do the Phase5 PPC accelerator boards work
without the Amiga hardware? Yes, it runs on the
Amiga hardware, like OS4 does/will. Except if you
say the same about OS4 too:)(that it doesn't run on
Amiga hardware minus AmigaONE, it only runs on
P5 PPCs). Sorry, you're nuts. You're totally nuts.

Ehhh... What are you on about? We're talking about what the MorphOS runs on, not the requirements for the Phase5 PowerUP boards. MorphOS runs on the Phase5 PowerUP boards PowerPC CPU, not the Amiga hardware's 68k CPU. You cannot simply skip a part of the chain and claim that MorphOS runs on the Amiga hardware because MorphOS cannot run on the Amiga hardware as it has no PowerPC CPU.

[samface]

Ehm, do you know anything about Operating System
generations? Bah, I don't think you do... If you did you
wouldn't even mention that...

But I do know that you must have the legal issues set straight before claiming to be the successor of someone else's product line, regardless of how compatible it is.

[AmiGR]

The versions the announcement talks about runned AmigaOS 68k. It needed the Amiga chipset, so yes
it does run on Amiga hardware with the Phase5
PPC *EXPANSION/ACCELERATOR* cards.
Do you read? *EXPANSION* They *EXPAND* the Amiga hardware. They do no *REPLACE* it, so NO it
does *NOT* on Phase5 hardware it runs on Amiga
hardware expanded with the Phase5 PPC cards.