@samface:
Why would you have a petition about the new Amiga if there won't be one?
I don't know of any such petition. There is however a petition about the distribution policies for future versions of AmigaOS.
Why do you claim that there won't be any AmigaDE for the AmigaOS?
(I said AmigaOS 4.) *I* wasn't claiming that, Bill McEwen is. I based my statement on that.
Why do you keep saying things that only an employee of Amiga Inc. could possibly know, such as the AmigaOS5/DE beeing just a vague concept?
AmigaOS 5 does not exist and is most likely not in development yet (apart from the DE components, if such indeed will be included), as that would require at least a finished AmigaOS 4, more likely 4.5. OS5 is a hypothetical concept, and until it's in development it's a hypothetical concept on paper.
The DE is a concept, and IMO it's extremely vaguely defined.
Simple as that. You didn't read any of the links?
What you can't see doesn't exist, right?
Whatever you can't see but can read announcements about its planning in marketing must be tangible reality or even feasible, right? :- P
why does it "belong" on Amiga news sites
A bunch of people have repeatedly told you their arguments for this. Scroll around.
why would I not consider them an enemy of Amiga?
I assume you mean Amiga Inc.
Well, it's up to you of course. It's just that it generally makes people queasy to see someone muster all his/her might to fight what s/he feels is an "enemy" of a commercial entity. Others usually say "competition" and "options", even if they're economically affiliated with either commercial entity.
No, they buy ready-made boards. [...] Eyetech has nothing to do with any hardware design [...]
Stop making up lies about the AmigaOne, from Eyetech's AmigaOne FAQ:
[snip: Eyetech says the A1G3SE is not 100% identical to the TeronCX]
That's official.
What are you trying to say? I never said the "AmigaOne G3SE" was identical to the TeronCX. I said the A1 is not designed by Eyetech, and that they buy a ready-made board. Where's the lie, and what's this got to do with the newsworthiness of Pegasos or any potentially AmigaOS compatible hardware for that matter?
Amiga Inc. wants to create a new platform they call the AmigaOne.
I don't know what they
want other than what they have announced publicly, and that does not include any plans for an "AmigaOne platform", unless you refer to the old "AmigaOne/Zico" crap. "AmigaOne" is a trademark used by one licensed distributor for the piece of hardware it's distributing. Nothing more and nothing less.
They want to be able to provide their customers with a complete product, not just the software. They do this by cooperating with hardware manufacturers and *anyone* is free to apply for an AmigaOne distribution license, hardware manufacturers as well as dealers. They think that this will bring the customer a certain quality experience adding more value to the name "Amiga".
The only product provided (well, marketed) by Amiga Inc. is AmigaOS (ignoring the DEAAAACE stuff).
Funny choice of words there, "cooperating". There's a marketing director position open in Snoqualmie...
AmigaOS is dependent on hardware. If you sell a piece of software like AmigaOS you cannot under any present circumstance impose any restrictions on its possible hardware base. As I said before, go ahead with licensing, but it simply MUST NOT be a requirement for seeing absolutely essential ports of AmigaOS to more hardware. There is no need for any compulsory licensing/bundling/dongling requirements to get the little "cooperation" (a hardware sample and documentation) you need to make your software running on a piece of hardware. The compulsory licensing et c. is an obstacle against such "cooperation".
"Free to apply for a license"? Well, anyone is free to put their hands into a meatgrinder too, that doesn't mean anyone is going to do it without a sufficiently large incentive.
Even if someone came along and licensed some new hardware, it would still mean that only the licensed version of this hardware would be available only via this licensed channel for AmigaOS users. All this is in effect a very serious flaw in AmigaOS - not for technical reasons, but because of short-sighted greed and politics.
If they want to add "value" from hardware to the Amiga brand, they'd better start making their own hardware, and then it must be cheaper, better and faster than other desktop consumer hardware. This is not happening. The Amiga brand isn't gaining anything, AmigaOS is instead once again becoming known as "that dinky little OS that only runs on special hardware from special vendors", even though there is no technical reason for this. Sure, sell licensed hardware using the "AmigaOne" trademark, only the licensed hardware would be connected to the precious "Amiga" name, but it's insanity to NOT have the OS ported to as much hardware as possible and sell separate copies as well.
But
anyway, Pegasos stories have their place on amiga.org.
