Hollywood wants to hack your PC

[KennyR]

@redrumloa

What's wrong about it? You can't break a law to keep a law, ie. if I took down a annoying hacker's system to prevent him doing the same to me I could be prosecuted. And it makes no difference whether the parties are involved are companies or individuals. Hacking a computer is damage of private property and should be treated as such. I'm speaking about European law, of couse - I don't know about equivalent legislation in the US. Your property laws seems to be inconsistent.

And the Bush thing was a joke, of course (ok, a bad one ;-) ). And banning rock music I would agree with as a matter of taste (and that's another joke ;-) ).

Oh, and I believe that Republican personal freedoms are great unless you happen to be gay, coloured, or Moslem. And that's not a joke.

[redrumloa]

What's wrong about it? You can't break a law to keep a law,

You completely missed my point. I agree with you on THIS issue.

Oh, and I believe that Republican personal freedoms are great unless you happen to be gay, coloured, or Moslem. And that's not a joke.

 :evil: This is what pisses me off :evil: You have been brainwashed by American media which is heavily liberal biased :-x Your entire view of the USA is based on pop-tv culture and biased news comming out of the USA.

Read this:

And this:

This is the modern democrat Tipper(Al) Gore you Euro-freaks love. but nothing has changed. Abe Lincoln was a Republican who happened to free the slaves, guess what the southern Democrats stood for? :-x

[redrumloa]

Besides I just reread this article. It is supported by 3 democrats and 2 republicans. It just goes to show ignorance on digital technology goes across the board on this subject :-x

[KennyR]

@redrumloa

Hmm, nice sites. It seems Democrats suck too, you've made me realise that. But it seems the US 2-party system doesn't have any room for the left-wing and real freedoms. I mean, copyrighting jpegs and hacking computers in the name of law? Something's wrong there. And the worse part is, it effects the rest of the world, when we don't have any part in your politics at all.

Ever looked at http://www.whitehouse.org ? Nice site. It highlights the best in your country by lampooning the worst.

Oh by the way, the political roles of the Republicans and Democrats have almost completely swapped since Lincoln's time and his Proclaimation of Emancipation. Or at least the history books say so. Euro pop-tv proganda? You decide.

[redrumloa]

It seems Democrats suck too, you've made me realise that. But it seems the US 2-party system doesn't have any room for the left-wing and real freedoms.

Well there are dumb asses on both sides, but IMO the Democrats are the far worse evil. I vote for the best person for the job, that happens to be a Republican 99 out of 100 times.

Something's wrong there. And the worse part is, it effects the rest of the world, when we don't have any part in your politics at all.

The USA is not the center of the world. I will admit that when people arent mindlessly basing us. Vote for your strongest candidate.

Oh by the way, the political roles of the Republicans and Democrats have almost completely swapped since Lincoln's time and his Proclaimation of Emancipation.

I completely disagree. This is a complete falsehood put forward by the liberal press.

Euro pop-tv proganda? You decide.

Truth be known, most of the Euro-USA-bashers here have admitted they mostly dispise the US television programming they are force fed. Ironically that same US TV programming is the source of their US based news.

BTW just to keep things straight, in the republian primary I voted for Alan Keyes. But when he lost to Bush I voted for Bush in the presidential election. Al Gore as president would have been the absolute worst thing possible for this country :-x

[Kent]

Of course, the USA is the country where the Scientologists can confiscate your computer if they don't like what you write about them, isn't it?

Sounds like someone needs an "audit". rofl... scientologists are funny... but looks aren't everything.

:pint:

[arcticandyb]

I can't remember where I saw it - it was either a news link from here to somewhere like CNN SciTech or something similar - but I read a recent article that proposed the exact opposite to this news story.

The bill proposed would remove any of the restrictions that stopped businesses like Napster from operating (in a legal way).

The heart of the bill would increase the number of legal backups a person can make from 2 to something like 250.  This way an Internet Radio site or Music Sharing site could keep copies of a song in all major formats for PC playing software.

My problem with this article is just because something is put before congress, hardly means that it will become law.  There are just as many supporters in Congress of Net based music sites as there are opponents.  So the reality is that neither bill will pass, or if it does will pass in an extremely watered down version, that has no real power to do anything.

The other thing is that most politicians are completely against any kind of internet censorship.  Some because they feel it would be a violation of freedom of speech, others because they would see unintended restrictions in free trade, and many because such laws are almost impossible to police without an extremely prohibitive cost attached.

Look at the recent laws passed in the UK that force any large internet provider to have the ability to monitor and record email and chat traffic.  Just about none of these companies are in compliance because no one has said how the technology and software required will be paid for.  The fines imposed for non-compliance wouldn't come close to the costs involved in setting this up, and most are refusing to even start unless the government pays for it up front.  Even if they start projects to implement these laws it could be years before any of them are finished.

This is the main reason why governments don't like technology legislation.  They have no idea what the cost is going to end up being or what how implications of those laws will end up affecting the businesses that support each party or party member.

So until I see it, I won't believe any restrictive legislation will happen.  It certainly won't happen any time soon - heck it's taken them over a year to get the crucial anti-terroism legislation moving - how many years do you think it will take for something like that mentioned in this thread?

[Hammer]

It would be hypocritical for anyone to support this bill since it exclusively protects a certain groups from committing a crime.  The bill is not neutral.

It’s clear that some senators/congressperson is in the pay books of some trade federation.

[arcticandyb]

It’s clear that some senators/congressperson is in pay books of some trade federation.

I think you're onto something - do you think they're all allies of the Dark Side.. :-)

[arcticandyb]

@Red

As for voting Republican or Democrat, always keep in mind the secret bad guy in the new Star Wars movies, the one behind all the Dark Side stuff, and looks remarkedly similar to the Emperor in the old movies - well he is a Senator of the Old Republic.  Doesn't that make him a Republican Senator?

I think we should check the party membership files for suspicious names like Sen D. Vador Rep.

[Hammer]

I think you're onto something - do you think they're all allies of the Dark Side..

Did I say "Dark Side" in the post?

  ;-)

[asian1]

Hi
I disagree with this bill because:

1. Wasted time, energy. The worm/virus/trojan use the CPU power, time for scanning the hard disk for files.

2. What happen if someone shot a digital movie about their holiday in Aspen and store it on the file called "SnowWhite.mpg" or "SnowWhite.avi" on their hard disk?

If the Worm / virus / Trojan delete this file, it will be a disaster.

[spiffydinosaur]

@ KennyR

The funny thing is that Hollywood is full of Liberals. Left wing liberals I might add. They are usually the ones afraid of competition and use censorship to achieve their goals with a little extortion, arm-bending, Etc. Typical socialist stuff.

Oh yea! Algore would have been a great plus. BwhaaaaaHaaaaaa...Haaaaa!

Spiffy  :-P

[Elektro]

Anyone who names his movie snowwhite deserves to have it erased...  :-P  :-D  ;-)

[redrumloa]

Oh yea! Algore would have been a great plus. BwhaaaaaHaaaaaa...Haaaaa!

A voice of reason in the madness:-D

[anarchic_teapot]

Spiffy quoth blithely:

Typical socialist stuff.

I always wonder where the Americans get their ideas about Socialists from. Probably the same pop-tv media that they say we in Europe get our vision of the USA from.

Anyway, left- and right- wing comparisons/accusations/whatever are IMO out of place here. What we've got is a powerful, ultra-conservative (with a small 'c') lobby that reacts to change by pretending it doesn't exist, then when that doesn't work, trying to push through legislation ordering it not to exist.

Along with M$'s Palladium project, this is beginning to sound like the death knell of Wintel machines. Which is good news for us: how many people out there know how to hack an Amiga (or even MorphOS!) compared to those who attack M$ and Linux-based machines?
 :-D