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I'm surprised this has not been commented on here yet. Still if this doesn't say time to buy and AmigaOne I don't know what does! Check out Microsoft's latest plan to take away your freedom. here

 

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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2002, 10:35:28 PM »
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Still if this doesn't say time to buy and AmigaOne


Why should it ? For me it says: "Buy anything, but be
sure that it is 100% M$ free !"
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2002, 10:38:41 PM »
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Why should it ? For me it says: "Buy anything, but be sure that it is 100% M$ free !"


Because OS4.0 is the best option:-P

Seriously though ABW!
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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2002, 10:42:37 PM »
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Because OS4.0 is the best option


[flame]

But AInc are in bed with ......

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4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2002, 10:54:34 PM »
I see my PC's being 1 x linux 1x AmigaOne 1x multi boot Amithlon/linux/win98 for games only (removalable HD the only way to go). In the not to distant future.
Hey it's nearly there already just need to order Amilthlon 2.0 and OS3.9. Is the site for it www.amithlon.com? It still mentions H&P! Oh and I need to lose win 98 off one box :).
Kronos have you been eating too much pickled cabbage? You seem a very sour Kraut :) Please don't take offence, I'm very bored at work today :( Hell I'm sure you've been called worse :) You seem to have a talent for rubbing people up the wrong way! Maybe it's more of a gift than a talent :)

Kad

PS excuse all the smilies but some people can't tell when I'm joking and get all upset then start flaming me. Oh and sorry to say they all seem to come from the USofA. Maybe that will change now :s
 

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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2002, 11:06:47 PM »
@kadenaa

Sauerkraut (sour Kraut) ? Hmmm thats lecker , and I eat it twice a day,
just like you do it with fish&chipsm haggis or pordige .....

...... blürg rrrrrsss gwög....


ahm sorry had to rush to the bathroom  :-D

It is just a bit odd that you suggest that the A1 and the unfinished ( flame bait) OS4
are going to rescue the world from M$.

I got Win98 here (+ Amithlon, linux) and I will never update it !

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talent for rubbing people up the wrong way


Thats the only way to get all the filth (hype) out of the fur  :-P

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PS excuse all the smilies but some people can't tell when I'm joking and get all upset then start flaming me. Oh and sorry to say they all seem to come from the USofA. Maybe that will change now :s


I allready had this problem (twice), but I think GafgetMaster is from the UK  :-o

You have to come with something a lot more insulting, if you want to
make me angry.

/me sees this thread going 100% off-topic
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2002, 11:12:16 PM »
Time to kick Windows in the nuts... I'll download Linux as soon as I get my broadband connection...
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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2002, 11:28:25 PM »
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Is the site for it www.amithlon.com? It still mentions H&P!


Thats H&P's site,  try www.amithlon.net instead.

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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2002, 11:43:54 PM »
I see computers nowadays like tools, nothing more. Since there is software I like to run I'm stuck with Windows and you have to keep it updated to have any hope of keeping hackers worms at bay. So even this willnot make me give up my windows desktop and laptop. I don't see No One Lives Forever 2 coming out for anything else. I don't see Jedi Knight II, Alice, Undying, Ghost Recon, Medal of Honor, RTCW, Dungeon Seige, etc coming out reliably or timely on another single OS. Windows and the MS patch roller coaster is a necessary evil for people who like to play the best games right now.

If you need a certain wrench to drive a certain bolt you can't get rid of that wrench no matter how much you dislike it.

MS, during the trial, tried to convince us all that the 80s were a horrinble time for computers. So many different, incompatible machines. But I was there and it was a lot more fun than now. For all the better computing power there is something gone from the computing industry. I suppose the same happens in all industries. When cars first were developed there were a lot of companies and indaviduals doing interesting things. Now you're stuck with the offerings from a few large companies who all offer things that start to look alike. You used to know who designed parts of the computer and OS. They would write articles in magazines and chat with users all the time and really seemed to enjoy what they were doing. It seemed, from a users perspective, that they were less like software or hardware engineers and more like artists. When Commodore died you could see that all was slipping away. For the joy of computing that we all used to feel I have my Commodore/Amiga collection with machines ranging from the PET all the way up to the Video Toaster 4000. Amiga Forever and various other emulators sit on my Windows boxes.

What this all means, though, is I have another reason to plunk down my $50 today and join the club. Why? Because the more Amiga 4.0/AmigaOne they sell the better chance these companies will write their software for it. If that happens, then maybe I can finally get rid of this annoying wrench and use the tools I like to use :)

Amiga is in the right place at the right time, I feel. Anti-MS sentiment grows with each security flaw and attempt to take away a persons freedom to run their computer how they want to. If they can strike while the iron is hot they have the best chance of success. Commodore had that chance and blew it when they had a computer better able to handle multimedia than the current Apple (Black and White Macs) and MS (Windows 3.1/MS-DOS) offerings. IBM had that chance and blew it when Windows 95 was delayed but OS/2 was already out and maturing. I won't even go into all the other chances companies are losing because they will not go on the offensive when these major flaws in MS software are revealed. I think they feel that it's better to stay under the radar to avoid being targetted by either the hackers or MS. They must still be reeling from the beat down that Netscape and Be took.

Don't get me wrong. I am not assuming Amiga can pull off the dethroning of MS. But their best chance of grabbing enough of the pie to be taken seriously is right now. At worst all I get for my trouble is a t-shirt and another Amiga to add to my collection.

Way too longwinded, I know. But this is something I want to be passionate about.

The bottom line is, if you love Amiga and hate MS I can't see a reason not to buy AmigaOne and/or Amiga OS4. Due to that I can't see any reason not to 'join the club'. You don't lose any money and you get a t-shirt on top of the OS4.0 you'd buy anyway. It's a win-win-win trifecta sending a message to Amiga, Microsoft and the software developers. (well, okay, you do lose the use of $50 for a little while)

Who knows...a bunch of years from now the PC Expo in New York might even be interesting again.
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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2002, 12:58:31 AM »
@MayhemMaybe

You are right! M$ claimed the 80's was terrible because of incompatability. That was BS, it was GREAT because of all the options and competition! Now M$ has a stranglehold on the desktop market, they want to control our content like big brother.

M$ is also trying to take over the game console market. M$ will continue to try and take over the world, one market at a time.
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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2002, 01:01:57 AM »
I never thought that I'd say this: Buy Nintendo!!!
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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2002, 01:55:29 AM »
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You are right! M$ claimed the 80's was terrible because of incompatability. That was BS, it was GREAT because of all the options and competition! Now M$ has a stranglehold on the desktop market, they want to control our content like big brother.


I agree, I remember when "Your Computer" magazine and similar others had reviews of upcoming machines EVERY month! It was brilliant... I used to love going into shops at looking at machines like the Memotech512, the Enterprise64, the Oric Atmos and so on...

The machine I had the most fun with was the Amstrad CPC6128, tbh even more fun than with the Amiga because you could get right in there and "do stuff", with 1 book you knew everything there was to know.... (etc. now where did I put that pesky ear trumpet and my walking frame?)
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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2002, 02:13:21 AM »
I bet that EULA entry is popular at corporations. Do we update the machines and make them secure but we give Microsoft the legal right to access our machines and data..., or do we leave the machines insecure, or do we look for an alternative?

I dunno, but I bet more than a few companies are looking at these EULAs with a fine toothpick and making future purchasing, training and upgrade decisions right now. And they probably don't include Microsoft any more.

Hmmm, future per-year licensing, high costs, insecure, and now Microsoft have access to all your corporate data stored on Windows machines? What sane person would agree to that?

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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2002, 03:11:06 AM »
same stuff. different forum

It is a bit of extortion: providing a securety update to patch a hole and at the same time change the license so that they can do with your computer wathever they want and get away with it.

this small change in the EULA is getting a lot of press so hopefully people will start paying more attention to alternatives.
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Re: MS security patch EULA gives Microsoft admin privileges
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2002, 04:56:32 AM »
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this small change in the EULA is getting a lot of press so hopefully people will start paying more attention to alternatives.
I hope so. The only thing Microsoft has proved so far is that they know how to put a PR spin on everything. "Security is our top priority!!" Yet when security holes are found, they still act like the same beaurocracy(SP?).. It can take them months just to admit the problem exists.

The current situation in the Amiga'verse is the first time in a while where I've been excited by computing again. Or at least in anticipation thereof.
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