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Re: Ole-Egil's Debian GNU/Linux on A1G3-SE screenshots
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2002, 07:55:14 PM »
olegil is one lucky man. Don't tell me you had no space to test it and you were forced to take a room in the Playboy mansion.

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Re: Ole-Egil's Debian GNU/Linux on A1G3-SE screenshots
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2002, 09:28:35 PM »
@olegil,

Mixed emotions here.  

First, thanks for supporting Amiga.org -- I know I tend to be on the negative side, but I guarantee Wayne and crew deserve a round of beers for all they put up with.  I know I'm tossing my hat in the "$5.00 per month donation" hat.  I'd hate to be stuck with the likes of ANN as the sole source of news and commentary. (no offense intended to the owner of that site, just the rabid visitors).

Secondly, I find myself feeling both glad to see *something* running on the overpriced, underpowered PPC solution, but dismayed to see it's only Linux, which I'm running on at least one box here...

It's hard to get excited about seeing something that you know can easily be done much faster for much, much cheaper.

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Re: Ole-Egil's Debian GNU/Linux on A1G3-SE screenshots
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2002, 09:54:29 PM »
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It's hard to get excited about seeing something that you know can easily be done much faster for much, much cheaper.


When OS4 is running on it we will be happy. At least wih Linux there is something running on those boards. And it might attract some Linux freaks to buy the board. Personally I do not care for Linux. It's fun, but that's it. It is OS4 that counts.

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Re: Ole-Egil's Debian GNU/Linux on A1G3-SE screenshots
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2002, 10:08:58 PM »
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When OS4 is running on it we will be happy. At least wih Linux there is something running on those boards.
Sorry, I thought that's what I said.  Maybe with OS5.0 is running, we'll be happy, but Linux doesn't excite me.

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And it might attract some Linux freaks to buy the board.
Very optimistic, but also very doubtful.  As I said, most Linux users are fine running much cheaper and faster hardware.  Only those who have a strong, irrational hatred of Intel would be even remotely interested.  Of course, if Mac's OSX ran on it, it'd be an INSTANT hit for the masses.
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Re: HUH??
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2002, 10:15:18 PM »
http://themes.freshmeat.net/ is another good resource for screenshots of window managers and desktop environments for X.

http://sunshineinabag.co.uk/ have a bunch of particularly purdy themes for GNOME. For KDE, check out http://www.kdelook.org/.

I know there might not be much news around, but come on, X screenshots??

Something I would like to know is if the 4th PCI slot is usable simultaneously with the AGP slot, as Eyetech promised? If so, what effects does that have on the PCI and AGP bus speed respectively? That is if you're allowed to tell us, Ole-Egil (or anyone else with a mobo).
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Re: Ole-Egil's Debian GNU/Linux on A1G3-SE screenshots
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2002, 10:47:56 PM »
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Thanks for sharing these screenshots with us ...  :-D

I'm happy to see real programs running on the A1G3-SE.
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Re: HUH??
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2002, 11:08:57 PM »
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I know there might not be much news around, but come on, X screenshots??


Sehund, there is GOOD reason for him to show these. Just a few days ago i was ready comments(not on here) that the A1G3 was not running ANYTHING, and would never run ANYTHING.

That being said, who's to say OS4.0 isn't running on any of these boards? There is no information either way.
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Re: HUH??
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2002, 12:48:25 AM »
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Sehund, there is GOOD reason for him to show these. Just a few days ago i was ready comments(not on here) that the A1G3 was not running ANYTHING, and would never run ANYTHING.


It's been running Linux since August last year, so I'm just questioning how newsworthy this is. It would've suited better in the forum where someone was asking for screenshots IMO. Come back when at least ExecSG can be shown booting to a rudimentary CLI.

I'm not trying to be unappreciative of the gesture, but it's amusing to see some X screenshots being received as the second coming of Christ. :)

If some moron is claiming that hardware that's been in production and sold with a Linux distro for almost a year isn't running any OS at all and never will, then I don't think a bunch of screenshots is going to convince him/her otherwise (for someone thinking like that this is no proof anyway as screenshots like these could have been made on anything out there running any OS that has an X port). Also, we've already seen a craptacular MPEG showing Linux, X, WindowMaker(?) and a few standard apps running - that ought to be proof enough for anyone that not even Eyetech are being conned into buying vapourware this time.
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Re: HUH??
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2002, 12:55:33 AM »
Oh, another thing that could be of slight interest: How long did compiling Moz and mplayer take on this box? Any other benchmarks?
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Re: Ole-Egil's Debian GNU/Linux on A1G3-SE screenshots
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2002, 01:13:38 AM »
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BTW: Does UAE on PPC have a JIT yet ?


No !
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
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Re: HUH??
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2002, 01:27:48 AM »
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It's been running Linux since August last year

The version of Linux seen running on the prototype board in March 2002 was TurboLinux, an old distribution specially tweaked to run on the Teron boards. Not only is it no longer supported by TurboLinux, there are a number of features on the board that aren't even supported by the kernel. Like USB.

The version of Debian Ole-Egil shows running on his mobo, and the version of SuSE seen running on mine, are both modern kernels, supporting USB, recent graphics cards, etc. and are the result of work done by the A1 dev team. It is the first time mainstream desktop Linux distros have run on this type of board.
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Re: HUH??
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2002, 01:46:08 AM »
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That being said, who's to say OS4.0 isn't running on any of these boards? There is no information either way.


Does it not boot on the boards? Read it here somewhere. Booting is nice but does it it do anything else?

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Re: HUH??
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2002, 01:50:08 AM »
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Does it not boot on the boards? Read it here somewhere. Booting is nice but does it it do anything else?


Shhhh.. Be vewwy vewwy carefull..

The answer to that question is on the list..not here.....
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Re: HUH??
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2002, 02:00:40 AM »
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Shhhh.. Be vewwy vewwy carefull..


I am. Did read something about in Amiga.org and for the rest I did not see anything on the list about it. I only mention public known things.

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Re: HUH??
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2002, 03:31:54 AM »
anarchic_teapot,

Uh, what was the point of that reply? Woody is running 2.4.18 with Tom Gall's Teron patches. And?

Yesterday I installed Slackware and compiled the latest ac-patched 2.4.19 kernel for my poor little box I'm toying around with using as e.g. an mp3-server/player, which I originally had a homerolled "distro" on. This is the first time a mainstream desktop Linux distro runs on my mp3 box! BFD! Unfortunately I don't run X there, so you can't have any screenshots... :-P

Linux is Linux is Linux. Tweak your kernel and distro all you want. X screenshots is not News.

Or has the "A1 dev team" started kernel-hacking and rewriting existing drivers/modules? Heh. :D

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Re: Ole-Egil's Debian GNU/Linux on A1G3-SE screenshots
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 27, 2002, 08:09:10 AM »
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Only those who have a strong, irrational hatred of Intel would be even remotely interested.

Don’t forget AMD, the new custodian for x86 platform,  since Intel may well abandon x86 with the release of Itanium.
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