New Executive Update

[Kronos]

@Herewegoagain

Didn't Ben always say that OS4 was  a pure Hyperion-thing ?
And the A1 a pure Eytechech-one ?

I don't have a problem with AInc. "outsourcing" this, but I don't think it
is a good idea to take money in advance for products developed by
someelse. If they had said that they money would be passed over to Hyperion/
Eyetech to help them in getting things finished faster it would have made some
sense, but in the way it sounds to me now it's just another desperate
"we need money now" -cry just like the Party-Pack last year.

@Red
"-abuse-"

 :-o  :-o  :-o

Did you really see this as an abuse ?
I found the idea of labelling my Krusty_the_Klingon_insult_comedy
as something typical german quite amuseing..

[Herewegoagain]

If they had said that they money would be passed over to Hyperion/
Eyetech to help them in getting things finished faster it would have made some
sense, but in the way it sounds to me now it's just another desperate
"we need money now" -cry just like the Party-Pack last year.

Well, I understand what you are saying in that respect, but I find it hard to believe that the money will not somehow go to or at least toward those companies.  If nothing else, it could be deducted from any sort of fees/royalties they would have to pay Amiga, but that is just speculation even on my part.  I'm sure they have worked out the details amongst themselves.

[Valan]

I think they should post the number of pre orders they get on a weekly basis.

The pre order window is very short so the machines and OS4 must be ready to ship.

I suspect to a lot of true Amiga lovers the speed of the CPU won't really matter. All the fun OS stuff seems to have been updated. IT looks like they have expanded the feature list for the OS so that DE integration may come a lot sooner.

[starbird80]

I'm sorry to say that what I see in this promotion is an attempt to raise cash from the community, with NO guarantee that you'll get anything more than a T-shirt for your US$50.  

Bill McE:  Make that a $100 discount for $50 up front and I *might* consider it an investment in the future.  Clarify that this discount can be used for ANY A1-certified hardware, not just a clone of the developer board, and I would consider it very seriously.  Otherwise, my dollars will go to Amithlon.

[Kronos]

@Herwegoagain

This is how I understand it:

You pay $50 to AInc.
AInc. keeps that money (and maybe spends it on the DE).
The A1 is released.
You buy a A1.
You send the recipt to AInc.
AInc. sends you a cheque about $50.

And now what happens if AInc. go bankrupt before the A1-release ?

[redrumloa]

And now what happens if AInc. go bankrupt before the A1-release ?

You still get your A1G3SE/OS4.0, but maybe no rebate. Who says A-Inc is going under?

[FluffyMcDeath]

Wait and see-ism is as useful as procrastinastion when developing something new. Wait and see-ers will hang around and cherry pick as the work of others starts to bare fruit, but they depend on do-ers and investors, because development needs investment and commitment else nothing happens.
If the wait and see-ers feel more comfortable waiting and see-ing then that is their perogative and it is a low risk strategy, but a wait and see-er should never try to discourage committers and doers because if no-one is planting the cherry trees, there won't be any cherries to pick.

[redrumloa]

FluffyMcDeath

LOL I love that nick! Is that a dangerous new McDonalds breakfast? :-D

[bhoggett]

Nah. It sounds like the usual McDonalds breakfast to me.  :-o

[pellerhead]

"And now what happens if AInc. go bankrupt before the A1-release ?"

Your out $50.  :-o

Unless your making a living on a paper route you should survive. However, for those that do I suggest they consider the much cheaper i86 platforms that exist as neither Amiga or bPlan are going to be inexpensive.

[Hammer]

And now what happens if AInc. go bankrupt before the A1-release ?

If you notice, Alnc has multiple revenue stream to minimize this risk...

[Valan]

And now what happens if AInc. go bankrupt before the A1-release ?

I think Eyetech and Hyperion have that covered in the agreement made last year. Alan said that they had made a deal that secures the future development of the hardware and the Amiga OS for the future no matter what happens.

[Kronos]

If you notice, Alnc has multiple revenue stream to minimize this risk...

AInc has a revenue ? With what product ?
The game-pack ? The SDK ? The fantastic Sharp-deal ?

Their first income will probraly be Amithlon_2.0 which seems
to be "their" only real product that actually has a market.

[Rodney]

They paid that for the name and the (developer) community, but weren't
interested in the OS itself, actually the tried allmost every possible trick to
kill it in 2000.
They changed their mind in 2001 (good), but still haven't added one single
line of code to the project or payed for any actual development.

You dont know that for sure.  Hyperion have already said numerious times that there was code already there to build on that Amiga Inc had created before they couldnt pay their contractors.

Amiga Inc have worked on AmigaOS, but the DE is their first prioirty (itll be ours too come OS5) and they couldnt afford to work on it. So Hyperion steped in. You know this!

[whabang]

Baah! Just ignore him... I suspect that most of it will be gone soon anyway.

[AmiGod]

Red,

It's been pretty well documented AmiGod, in case you missed it.

So what you're basically telling me is that this deal revolves around the SAME A1 card that developers are getting, with a G3 processor and all.

You see, I was hoping that this special revolved around the more recent announcement by Eyetech about the G4s and dual-processor A1s.

This is why I asked.

Personally, I don't want a G3 A1.  Especially with Eyetech having announced the G4s and dual-G4s.

That would be like buying a bare-bones A500 after hearing about the A4kT with an 060.  Why buy the cheapest when you can afford the best.

Also check Amiga Inc's website for details on OS4.0.

Yup, I've been keeping tabs on everything OS 4.0-related since it was first announced.

Thanks anyways for the heads-up.

AmiGod