New Executive Update

[z5]

I have never been impressed by ANY executive update. Every update has the same "announcements soon" "go to this show for something big" "big companies showing interest" "deals are nearly signed" "the amiga community is fantastic" "soon" "DE is amiga anywhere" "cellphone" "we are gonna rock the world"... It's all pure PR talk, nothing more. I'm still waiting for the first executive update saying "it's out".  8-)

[asian1]

>Amithlon 2 announcement.

I am glad the legal problem is solved.
To avoid confusion, Mr Bernd Meyer should update his page and Amiga Inc should ask H&P to close their Amithlon website. The customers will be confused by the 2 different announcements.

http://www.amithlon.net/en/amithlon_statement.txt

[redrumloa]

@z5

There WERE a few OUT NOW updates! Don't you remember the "Silly games pack for WinCE" announcement? ;-) JK actually.

There was the OS3.9 shipping, the DE SDK, DE player, Linux Player, Nokia(since died) and the games pack. More than any other owner since C=.

[Kronos]

Oh come on now Kronos! You and I both know VERY well that a $50 deposit is *ALOT* different than throwing $1200USD++++ at a preorder.

It's still a damn pre-payment ! And AInc. are still not investing one
single $ into the development of A1/OS4....

I can drink $50 in a bar in a few hours!

And someone like that is allowed to have kids  :-o

God bless America  :roll:

[z5]

@redrumloa:

Can you actually use any of it (apart from OS3.9 which was the worst OS update ever imo)?

It's always about "soon". I bought my first Amiga 1000 in 1986 (damn, i'm getting really old:-x) and it's still in my heart (just bought myself a new...A500  :-D and have A1000 and 2 A1200). I will always hope for the best for the most stunning and stylish computer ever. I believe in the quality of Hyperion but i have never believed in Amiga Inc as they are now. They do a bad job. Just as they do a bad job with the AmigaOne preorder action.

[Kronos]

They pretty clearly, unambiguously, and definitively said that the AmigaONE is not a TeronCX.

Just like they said that the "Escena_ONE" was allmost ready,
that the dev-boards (all of them) would be shipped in April, that they have them but they would need to "fix the rom", that
they have them (all of them) but just have to adapt Linux before, and
that they have borrowed Apple's CPU-socket.

Reality:
The A1 is a (slightly) modified TeronCX and will be produced (and yes
I mean "will be" and not "has") by a yet unknown company. The A1-XE
will be a slightly modified version if the TeronPX, which (suprise suprise)
uses a megarray CPU-socket, just like Apple does.

[redrumloa]

It's still a damn pre-payment ! And AInc. are still not investing one single $ into the development of A1/OS4....

$5Million isnt enough? Would be happier if Gateway2000 still owned everything?

And someone like that is allowed to have kids  
God bless America  

Thanks for the insults.

[xeron]

Reality:
The A1 is a (slightly) modified TeronCX and will be produced (and yes
I mean "will be" and not "has") by a yet unknown company. The A1-XE
will be a slightly modified version if the TeronPX, which (suprise suprise)
uses a megarray CPU-socket, just like Apple does.

OK. And where are you getting your "facts" from, or are they just based on the fact that the boards are similarily specced? I'm not arguing, its just that you are just some guy on a forum, so I take what anyone says with a pinch of salt  :-P

And, at the end of the day, even if it was just a slightly modified TeronCX, why should anyone even care? If it does the job of running OS4 nicely, surely thats what matters?

[Kronos]

$5Million isnt enough?

They paid that for the name and the (developer) community, but weren't
interested in the OS itself, actually the tried allmost every possible trick to
kill it in 2000.
They changed their mind in 2001 (good), but still haven't added one single
line of code to the project or payed for any actual development.

Thanks for the insults.

Be my guest  :-D

[Kronos]

OK. And where are you getting your "facts"

Even Alan addmitted that it has been developed by the same persons
that did the TeronCX, and given the limited time and money frameset it's
absolut impossible to create a completly new design.

If it does the job of running OS4 nicely, surely thats what matters?

If it really does (doubt it) ? No problem at all, but I do have a problem with
the hot-air Alan is talking just to avoid the saying the truth. Which is that
Eyetech is just a reseller and not capable to get such a big project off
the ground without relying on others.

But that was not the point.
The Point was that AInc. doesn't take any finicial risk in the A1/OS4 operation,
but still there are the ones who are asking for a pre-payment...

[MarkTime]

It goes without saying, so obviously I feel the need to say it anyway.  This will not show the number of people who will buy the board.  For one, most people who order the board will not prepay.  For two, some who prepay really don't have the money for the board.  Still the second option nets Amiga 50 bucks.

The final success of the board also depends on momentum.  If its taking off like a lightning bolt, then more ppl will jump on the bandwagon.  It also depends, I think to a small extent anyway, the alternatives like G3 upgrades and maybe pegasos.

They might get 1,000 pre-orders if they are darn lucky, and this shouldn't be indicative of anything, except they really need $50,000 bucks really bad.

[redrumloa]

Be my guest

-abuse-

Yeesh I have to edit my own post :-x

[AmiGod]

I don't know about you guys, but I'd like to know what I get for my money before putting my money down.  Sure, it says I would get an A1 with OS 4.0 and a free shirt.  But what are the specs for this A1?  Is it a G3, a G4, what's its speed, and what exactly is the final pricing for all of this?

AmiGod

[Herewegoagain]

They changed their mind in 2001 (good), but still haven't added one single
line of code to the project or payed for any actual development.

Honestly Kronos, do you have some sort of vested interest in overseeing that Amiga has to spend X amount of dollars?   And how do you know so much of what goes on internally at Amiga concerning their finances?  Do you loose sleep over this at night?

Personally,  I could care less what they have spent or how many lines of code they have actually produced in-house... that means squat to me!  The only thing that matters to me is that things are happening.

[redrumloa]

It's been pretty well documented AmiGod, in case you missed it.

http://www.eyetech.co.uk/addbar.php?Address=/NEWS/AMIGA001.HTM

Also check Amiga Inc's website for details on OS4.0.

www.amiga.com

[Kronos]

@Herewegoagain

Didn't Ben always say that OS4 was  a pure Hyperion-thing ?
And the A1 a pure Eytechech-one ?

I don't have a problem with AInc. "outsourcing" this, but I don't think it
is a good idea to take money in advance for products developed by
someelse. If they had said that they money would be passed over to Hyperion/
Eyetech to help them in getting things finished faster it would have made some
sense, but in the way it sounds to me now it's just another desperate
"we need money now" -cry just like the Party-Pack last year.

@Red
"-abuse-"

 :-o  :-o  :-o

Did you really see this as an abuse ?
I found the idea of labelling my Krusty_the_Klingon_insult_comedy
as something typical german quite amuseing..