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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 06, 2002, 09:56:46 PM »
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just as it is for others to question your questioning


Exactly but are people questioning my questioning or attacking my questioning. Or just attacking me.

Are they doing it because they disagree with me or because they are scared I am right?

It seems like its all knee jerk reactions because I mentioned fascism in the same sentence as other words.
 

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2002, 12:21:43 AM »
people questioning my questioning or attacking my questioning

Hmm.. That would make a great Tagline  :-P
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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2002, 01:45:07 AM »
this petition is complete #### and can only harm the amiga this machine will not sell in massive amounts like a pc operating system. sales are important to keep the os alive and upto date. after all its piracey which helped to push top companys away from the amiga.Amiga inc are not stopping anyone from using amiga os on there hardware they just have to get a licence like eyetech for the amigaone the same if you want to run windows on any device.anyway what other hardware apart from a badly desighned pegasus is there to run it on.
I once had an amigaone xe but sold it .

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2002, 01:50:54 AM »
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What annoys me is the way these things work. The way society works, the way the Amiga Community works, the way the whole world works.


It annoys you the way the whole world works? Sorry I can't help you there.

That statement portrays you as disillusioned whether you are or not is another matter. its how your comment will be interpreted, thats all.

I was still writing my answer when you posted a clarification so its a classic case of 'crossed in the post' :-D

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I don't feel strongly about the subject of Amiga being on "Open Hardware" or not to start a petition


This is the part I find hypocritical sir.

Do you know what the opposite of this statement would be?

It means that IF you DID feel strongly about the subject you would start a petition.

if you wouldn't then you are not hypocritical but are defending your arguments with the wrong reasoning.

I did not personally insult you by calling you a fascist, I don't believe you are!
I said that if you did start a petition that would be the opposite of wht you said earlier (thus hypocritical) and if you thought petitions are fascism then according to your own definition you would be one.

Glad you cleared that up though!
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I also do not think you are a social misfit but if you keep talking the way you do about how the way that the whole world works is annoying to you, then people might think you are trying to be exclusive and that you think of yourself better tham them.

Again, its how your statements look. Not how I think you are.

You really should be able to take criticism of your views just as you expect others to take your criticism.

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Do you think we should do that if someone doesn't agree with you, if someone has beliefs that just don't gell, we should get them some help, brain wash them to our way of thinking because its better.


LOL did i really say that ??? please cut & paste a quote for me purleeeese! :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

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A petition isn't inherantly good or bad, but it can be used in a way which defeats the point of petitions

Exactly!!  Thank you !

Ok now lets see if you can constructively show me how this particular petition is being used in a bad way, so I can finally understand you point of view.That is all I ask.
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Too many people like to take things and twist them to their own ends, for instance imagine someone taking a post, misquoting it, or selectively quoting it to provide a skewed view of what was said

I feel I have been subjected to the same.
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It happens all the time on the internet, and the only thing stopping it is honesty.

Amen!

Now sir can we please declare peace and stop annoying other readers with our long arguments. I feel we both are misusing the quoting system and should stop
No hard feelings :-D
 

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2002, 02:55:39 AM »
Before you post messages at least read the FAQs
Here is an example of a FAQ for those that didn`t read them...

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Q: "I'm a Linux/BSD/whatever POP/PPC user. Why should I care about Amiga Inc. killing off their product and screwing AmigaOS users?"

A: Because AmigaOS users, no matter how few, still could be an addition to a common POP hardware market if they only were allowed to. With Amiga Inc.'s policies they'd have to be a separate market for no technical reason. A unified market means more users, which in turn increases the probability of seeing faster development, cheaper hardware and more hardware options. Many ex-AmigaOS users fondly remember AmigaOS, so the POP market could become a viable and attractive alternative for those users if the artificial obstacles were removed. You might even be interested in buying AmigaOS and try it out for yourself, but with the announced policies you'd have to buy new hardware with AmigaOS bundled to get a chance. Any open PPC hardware project would also benefit from a more reasonable distribution policy for AmigaOS.
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Free the  POP market, we will be the ones to win something from this case as customers if they change their policy.

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2002, 04:50:18 AM »
What is this POP market and who is in it?
Where can I purchase items sold in this POP market? How is Amiga adding to this POP market?
 

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2002, 09:11:18 AM »
I believe that girl with the plastic boobies (Britney something?  ;-) ) is in the POP business. I have no idea why Amiga Inc would help her, though.  :-P
 

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2002, 06:37:41 PM »
Akaru:
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Exactly but are people questioning my questioning or attacking my questioning. Or just attacking me.

Just questioning your logic.
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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2002, 09:43:27 PM »
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Poster: Argo Date: 2002/6/7 2:50:18

What is this POP market and who is in it?
Where can I purchase items sold in this POP market? How is Amiga adding to this POP market?

I agree.

From my understanding Apple absorbe much of the PPC processors. We only have the G3 because Apple have moved onto the G4.

I know that there are a few manufactures out there making boards but where can I buy just one, not a truck load?

At the end of the day this is all well and good, but can't we wait until AmigaINC is anywhere near getting on its feet with a good income before we start attacking thier policies?

JS
 

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2002, 12:32:43 AM »
Damn Portland!
AmigaPOP.8bit.co.uk seems to be unreachable ATM, so try the mirror at http://amiga.medicinareberget.studenthem.gu.se:8080/amiga/petition/.
[color=0000FF]Maybe it\\\'s still possible to [/color]save AmigaOS [color=0000FF][/size][/color]  :rtfm:......
 

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2002, 12:33:43 AM »
BTW I am neither for or against the "copy protection" AmigaINC have decided on.

The last Amiga I brought came with the OS so I have no problems with getting this one with it.

OK maybe I am getting limited to 1 board as apposed to [insert number here] boards, but rightly or wrongly, all AmigaINC are doing is protecting thier investment.

JS
 

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2002, 08:53:32 PM »
Quick! Its not too late to revive the flagging fortunes of the petition!
Hate figure. :lol:
 

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2002, 02:39:09 PM »
Quick post another news item about the petition before it dies totally!