AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site

[Seehund]

AmigaPOP.8bit.co.uk is finally online!

Here you'll hopefully find all information you could possibly want about the "AmigaOS distribution policies and POP/PPC hardware petition". I hope the background information and FAQ will be especially helpful to clear up some of the confusion surrounding these issues.

If you have not yet signed the petition, then please do so now! Please help spreading the word by linking to AmigaPOP.8bit.co.uk. It's not too late to save our favourite OS and a unified POP-based hardware market!

In other news, I have finally managed to get in touch with the PetitionOnline.com administrators. The few abuse and sabotage attempts so far have been removed from the signatory listings. Not that any garbage would ever reach the recipient of our petition, but I understand some thought that it didn't look too good...

[System]

im torn on this matter

[Argo]

"Oh no, not again."

-- A bowl of petunias on it's way to certain death.

[createcoms]

I support Amiga, the company and I think this petition is plain stupid.

How about just stepping out of your selfish perspective for a second and seeing it from their point of view.

Come on guys - history has taught us, so why walk blindly?

[xeron]

Well I'm not signing it. I think Amiga are doing this for all the right reasons.

[Rodney]

Seems like all the people they deleted from the list were all those with an opposing view. This petition doesnt really show alot, unless it can show that the number of people wanting AmigaOS to run on POP hardware outnumbers those who think the licence is fair.

By deleting those signitures, you complely delete any chance of that happening. Now it looks like 370 people who appose the licence compared to the few thousand or so that think its fair.

Im thinking about making a petition that says "The licenece is fine, keep it the way it is". Maybe that would make a good poll? - I dont think we've had one yet of that topic yet!

[System]

Have you ever thought how stupid petitions are? they're like a form of facisism, what you have is a bunch of people saying hey we don't like this, and here we are a mob you have to change because of us.

Its completely one sided, what about people who agree with Amiga's policy, shouldn't they're views be heard as well? With a petition, you only hear one side of the story which makes them even less relevant.

I say we start a counter petition, and also embrace democracy and have a vote on whether we agree or disagree with the whole thing.

Then we can forget the whole thing because it makes about as much sense as arguing about who ate the last godamn cookie in the jar.

[anarchic_teapot]

Akaru wrote:

Its completely one sided,

Well, it's a petition. Petitions generally are.

To be honest, I don't think those who drew up the petition have really thought things out. I notice Emmanuel Mair is one of the activists; this is the guy who ran FUD'ing to penguinppc.org trying to make people think that the AOS ROM would stop Linux running on the A1. If he'd actually thought for a moment and/or asked Eyetech about it first, he wouldn't have looked so silly.

[Seehund]

createcoms:

I support Amiga, the company and I think this petition is plain stupid.

http://amigapop.8bit.co.uk/faq.html#2
http://amigapop.8bit.co.uk/faq.html#3
http://amigapop.8bit.co.uk/intro.html

This is not about "supporting Amiga, the company" or not. It's about the survival of AmigaOS and an undivided hardware market.

Come on guys - history has taught us, so why walk blindly?

Exactly! Totally unnecessarily tying an OS to a restricted hardware base is suicidal.

[Seehund]

Seems like all the people they deleted from the list were all those with an opposing view.

There were 8 signatures who posted abusive comments and spoofed other persons. Should obvious morons attempting to disrupt a petition process be on a list of names when they obviously don't endorse what the petition in question says?

I could of course have asked petitiononline.com to keep the garbage, it wouldn't have mattered much since it naturally would be removed when the list is compiled and handed over. It just looked bad, and some people seem to think that they have to agree with other signatories' "optional comments" in addition to the petition which they're signing.

By deleting those signitures, you complely delete any chance of that happening. Now it looks like 370 people who appose the licence compared to the few thousand or so that think its fair.

Huh? What are you talking about?

Im thinking about making a petition that says "The licenece is fine, keep it the way it is".

Well, Amiga Inc. and their "partners" have apparently aready "consulted" those. Heh. :-P

[System]

@Rodney

Seems like all the people they deleted from the list were all those with an opposing view. This petition doesnt really show alot, unless it can show that the number of people wanting AmigaOS to run on POP hardware outnumbers those who think the licence is fair.

a petition isnt like voting. there is only one reason for signing a petition and that is when you agree with what it says and want to support it, in hopes of persuading another to your point of view.

By deleting those signitures, you complely delete any chance of that happening. Now it looks like 370 people who appose the licence compared to the few thousand or so that think its fair.

the purpose of a petition is not to paint a picture of contrasting views, opposers signatures have no place there, its like trolling.

@Akura

Have you ever thought how stupid petitions are? they're like a form of facisism, what you have is a bunch of people saying hey we don't like this, and here we are a mob you have to change because of us.

whether you agree with it or not isnt it their right to speak up if they disagree? Its only a petition for God's sake.

Its completely one sided, what about people who agree with Amiga's policy, shouldn't they're views be heard as well? With a petition, you only hear one side of the story which makes them even less relevant.

and why should those who support the views of this petition really give a damn about showing the number of opposing views? what responsibility is it of theirs to do this?

im not really sure if your suggestion about starting your own petition was infact sarcastic or not, but if you want opposing views to be heard thats exactly what you do.

[Seehund]

Akaru:

Have you ever thought how stupid petitions are? they're like a form of facisism, what you have is a bunch of people saying hey we don't like this, and here we are a mob you have to change because of us.

Its completely one sided, what about people who agree with Amiga's policy, shouldn't they're views be heard as well? With a petition, you only hear one side of the story which makes them even less relevant.

Oh. My. God.
This... Well... It defies description.
 :-o

[GadgetMaster]

I too am amazed at the comments made  so far on this news item.

Comparing a petition with anarchy ??!! What ??

You are making yourself sound ridiculous and ignorant.

It is only a petition for Earths sake!

Nobody is forcing you to sign it.

It only gives people a chance to show they disagree with something.

And before you start accusing me of being one sided  let me tell you that NO  I did NOT sign it because I dont hold the same views.

But I do not have a problem with other people having different views especially when they are portraying them in a constructive way.

Now stop being narrow minded and let them have their say ?

What are you afraid of ? If they do get their way , how will it affect you? have you even tried thinking that far ?

Now if you don't have anything constructive to say and the petition doesn't interest you then why not ignore it? :evil:  :-?  :-?

[GadgetMaster]

I meant I was surprised by only SOME of the comments.

Not all of them.

I tried editing my original post but it didn't let me.

A bug or new policy ? ?

[jj]

I cant even be bothered to look at the site

Love live Amiga, they derserve a break, would u have put in all this money and effort into a platform that has been officcaly dead for 10 years.

I want an A1 and I want it like yesterday