Site Update

[Quixote]

What the reluctantly annonymous Mr. Reticuli reports affects me as well.  I have a registered copy of
IBrowse 1.12, and it will not log in even with cookies set to always accept.  My login page has
"Welcome Quixote" at the top, and "You are Annonymous User" at the bottom.

The demo version of AWeb that was bundled with OS 3.9, however, works successfully.  Perhaps it's a
java thing.


Quixote

[System]

More than likely a crappy Amiga browser that doesn't work correctly with sessions.  I've also seen some paranoia buffs who install a browser and turn all the security settings to "absolute maximum so don't allow ANYTHING" and they wonder why it doesn't work. :-)

Wayne

[shIva]

... g00d update, looks well, and mozilla does it ;-)

shIva

[reticuli]

As you can see, I managed to log in tonight. However, you are wrong about the refresh. I'm a fairly patient person and don't generally use the refresh button. (I'm usually loading about 5 other Amiga related sites, in addition to Amiga.org, in the background, while I do IRC). And in every case I let it continue until it reached the profile page (which always resulted in a profile with hardly any details and no edit button) because I know interupting pages can cause problems with some systems.

I feel I must clarify something. When I said:

 

However, to contradict this, I know other people are getting in ok... I can see them. And an awful lot of them must surely be using IE6 or Netscape.
 

What I suppose I should have stressed better was that an awful lot of those people who are *successfully* logging in must be using IE6 or Netscape. Otherwise I'm fairly sure someone would have pointed out similar problems to that which I have been having much earlier and en masse. Which in turn suggests it isn't the browser that is causing the problem.

Anyway, I digress. Out of interest I decided to try your theory. And what happens is this: If I try to refesh the page while on the screen that displays:

Hello reticuli, taking you to your profile page...

If the page does not automatically reload, please click here

A window pops up:

 

"The page cannot be refreshed without resending the information. Click Retry to send the information again or click Cancel to return to the page that you were trying to view."
 

I stress again... I have NEVER clicked refresh at this point before - I've ALWAYS let it continue to the profile page as naturally it should.

At this point clicking on retry would sometimes result in me staying on that page and at others would take me on to my profile automatically. When it didn't take me to the page automatically, as soon as I clicked "Click Here" it logged me in fine. There was at no stage a situation where I ended up being logged out. All of which is in complete contradiction to what you say about you only being able to reproduce the problem by clicking refresh.

Then I had another idea and decided to make sure the profile page NEVER loaded. First by logging out. Then by logging myself back in but deliberately clicking "Stop" as soon as the above "Hello reticuli, taking you to your profile" screen appeared. If my theory was correct getting to the profile page was a red herring and I should already be logged in the moment I got the "Hello reticuli, taking you to your profile page" screen. To prove the point I then typed http://www.amiga.org into the address bar and I was right - I was logged in.

The conclusion? This has got nothing to do with whether I let the profile page load or not. In the above process I made sure I didn't reach it and still found myself logged in.

All I know for certain is it's strange.

Hopefully it won't happen again but if it does I'll make a point of getting more information on the problem.

Anyway, keep up the good work and I hope this is taken constructively (as it is intended)

[System]

Reticuli,

I appreciate your efforts, I truly do, but I cannot recreate the problem, no matter what I do.  You are correct in that about 85% or higher of our users use either IE or Netscape.  

The biggest problems we appear to have come from people who either use antiquated versions like Netscape 4.x or in some cases even IE3.x.  As such, at this point, there are only two things I can really blame here (considering 99% of all people log in ok).

1) The security settings of the browser
2) Connection problems.  

I stayed up the majority of last night trying and I simply cannot reproduce this problem, no matter what I do, which platform, or which browser and version I'm using.  How else can I test?

I digress however, this should have been solved in e-mail, not in a news item labelled "Site Update" as we're not only way off topic, we're badly flawed in the approach.

Wayne Hunt

[MasterOfReality]

Hi Wayne.

FWIW, all the latest versions of the Amiga browsers work fine.

Advertising is OK. I'm quite hapy with it where it is. If you move it
down the side, the AO logo will look a bit odd with nothing to fill the space next to it.

If you're going to keep the orange colour for site info (certainly
stands out well enough), you might want to think about changing the
colour you use for links, since the "Amiga.Org" link in the orange bar
on this update is rendered in red in voyager and is a bit difficult to
read.

Anyway, keep up the good work :-). AO is still great.