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Chathurawind

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Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« on: March 23, 2002, 05:10:00 AM »
Vesalia are now taking preorders for bPlan's Pegasos motherboards! 650 Euros will get you this piece of impressive and magnificent looking hardware including a PPC 750CEx CPU at 600 MHz, MorphOS, Linux and German VAT.


 

Offline amigamad

Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2002, 11:08:02 AM »
not sure why you would buy this when the real amiga the amiga one is out soon
I once had an amigaone xe but sold it .

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Offline DaveP

Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2002, 11:45:18 AM »
Understandable marketing move. Eyetech get out there in the marketplace with a working product which builds optimism.

Others
* Fear losing the marketplace after the immense fud campaign that was partly successfull last year ( caused one hell of a backlash ) now Eyetech are actually getting working boards in the hands of users.

* Want to get in on the preorder bonanza.

* Artificially puff up the AmigaONE price in their store and one wonders why.

* Waffle on about dual processor options when there are no cards for it yet - just a vague committment. Plus it will cost you.

Eyetech and AmigaOS4 have the momentum now - just do not p*ss it up.

Dont get me wrong, Ill consider Pegasos as well when it comes out. But given that I have far too many computers in my study at the moment anyway and it will need its bios key ( no doubt the warez lobby will provide a work around for that ) et al its too little too late.

If the Bplan/MorphOS campaign had actually released a hardware and software option in GA form before now I would have gone with that.

No doubt we will see more comparisons of apples with elephants ( i.e. marketing ) before this is settled.

Dave.
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Chathurawind

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Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2002, 12:22:30 PM »
>Eyetech get out there in the marketplace with a working product which builds optimism

Dreamer. When do you expect an OS4 version for the AmigaOne? You have read Thomas Frieden's comment in the OS4 list?

 

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Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2002, 12:39:33 PM »
OS4 will be out soon! Period!

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Chathurawind

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Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2002, 12:43:10 PM »
Excuse me? Both Pegasos and AmigaONE are
using the same chipset, the same components
etc... if you notice the original Pegasos prototypes you'll notice that it's a redesigned
TerronCX. If you noticed the northbridge,
you'll see that it's the Articia S.
The difference is that the pegasos has been
totally redesined, while the AmigaOne is
a TerronCX...  :-)
 

Offline DaveP

Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2002, 12:46:40 PM »
Dreamer? No. The AmigaONE ( hardware project ) is complete and working. Ill happily be using it with Linux PPC until AmigaOS4 comes out which is a seperable product. Just because the ability to perform linear seperation is way beyond your perceptrons doesnt mean it is others ;-)

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The difference is that the pegasos has been
totally redesined, while the AmigaOne is
a TerronCX...

Second - yeah thats right - how about you go read the AmigaONE FAQ on Eyetechs site about the TerronCX or do you prefer to spread more FUD....

Dave.
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Chathurawind

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Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2002, 12:51:40 PM »
>OS4 will be out soon! Period!

For the Classic Amiga sure. But I'm confident that they'll adapt OS4 to the A1 in less then a month.

 

Chathurawind

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Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2002, 12:53:35 PM »
>The AmigaONE ( hardware project ) is complete and working

I haven not seen it working, did you? I already saw a Pegasos running AmigaOS software last November.
 

Chathurawind

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Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2002, 12:54:18 PM »
Shut up. That's not true.
I think there this forum should be moderated when lies are put in here.

José
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Offline DaveP

Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2002, 01:02:15 PM »
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I haven not seen it working, did you? I already saw a Pegasos running AmigaOS software last November.


1. Wow Eyetech and Hyperion really have you folks on the run again dont they?

2. Running natively, running UAE or running MorphOS ( != AmigaOS )?

Keep up the FUD, youll get another backlash on your hands soon enough which will drive more sales for Eyetech. I used to sit on the fence about this lot until the debates on ann, moobunny and #morphos got to the point where the clueless were way overcompensating and flaming anyone who tried to discuss any points with them. I dont even think the worse ones really knew what they were talking about they were just banding together to bully.

If that lot are going the morphos/bplan route watch me and other moderates go the opposite direction. If only I could persuade Shawn and Rue to go the MorphOS route now too ;-)

Dave.
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Offline Coder

Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2002, 01:32:19 PM »
The Pegasos seems great too. But I am an Amiga freak. :-D If Pegasos was out far before the AmigaOne I would have bought it. But I still might buy one anyway later on.

In about 4 weeks I will be running my AmigaOne with (pretty sure) the beta of OS4. Then I will be able to provide some feedback.

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Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2002, 01:37:51 PM »
Now the race is on.

If its Pegasos+MorphOS vs AOne+AOS4
 both will fail and i'm gone stick with Amithlon.

If its Pegasos+MorphOS+AOS4 vs AOne+AOS4
AOS4 will win and the Pegasos would be my favourite (G4 should be easier
here).This is the most liklely option as Hyperion allready stated the would
support any suitable PPC-system. As i understand the AOS4-flash-rom
will only be needed in the OEM-version and not in the "full" version.

If its Pegasos+MorphOS+AOS4 vs AOne+AOS4+MorphOS
i would still think of AOS4 as the most likely winner but its gonna
be a hot fight.
(MorphOS on AOne isn't very likely to happen IMO)
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

Chathurawind

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Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2002, 02:04:43 PM »
Also AmigaOneG3-SE can be ordered from vesalia.

Anonymous: AmigaOneG3-SE is not TeronCX, do some homework before you post. (the design was ordered from the same company which designed TeronCX, but the specs are different, the board is different)

Btw. is there anywhere a picture about pegasos & IBM750CXe chip?


I´m not going to preorder anything, but when the products exist, I might buy both (if they are both legal in every aspect).
 

Offline KennyR

Re: Vesalia are taking Pegasos preorders
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2002, 02:39:51 PM »
ARGH! The same old tired flames!

Flame #1: "Stop dreaming, OS4 will never come out."

Kenny Says: Huh? Whaaa? OS4 is a certainty now. I think people that say this need dragged kicking an screaming into the 21st century.

Flame #2: A1 is just a reused board, Pegasos is redesigned from scratch.

Kenny Says: Who the f*ck cares? It works, doesn't it?

Flame #3: PegaSOS isn't an Amiga!

Kenny Says: Isn't it? If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... If it has the ability to natively run an Amiga OS, it's an Amiga. Period. End of conversation.

Flame #4: I really need that CPU slot on the pegasos...A1 is just crap because it doesn't have one.

Kenny Says: The A1200 has no (dedicated) CPU slot and is still by far the most popular Amiga. A cpu card could be fitted on a PCI board or attached in another way. As well as the fact that you ain't likely to get many CPU boards in the future, things being as they are. Why don't you just hang a cow bell on your machine and say how great it is? If you think you need the CPU slot, go and buy the Pegasos. No-one will physically stop you. Well, maybe. ;)

Flame #5: Pegasos is being made by people who really know about the Amiga. A1 is just an old board being made by some Chinese people.

Kenny Says: My taste in computers is like my taste in women. I don't need a a pedigree and a list of their past. It really, really, doesn't matter. I don't care. It's certainly no basis to flame the A1, and you know it!

Flame #6: Your OS sucks, mine rules!

Kenny Says: Erm, maybe you should get out more often, maybe meet a nice girl and have picnics in the sun. People who say the above should really stop masturbating in darkened rooms and eating junk food - not that there's anything wrong in that, of course ;) (in moderation) ;)

The Amiga community needs more of these reality checks. You're starting to sound like kids arguing over a lump of playdough ("Its a rocket ship!" "No, its a horsey!" - punch).