Cybervision 64/3D on its way! Now what?

[dandelion]

Following the recent purchase of my Amiga 4000, and all the fantastic help I received which has given me a now batteryless, SCSI working, lovely machine - i've been able to source a graphics card.

This is namely a Cybervision 64/3D card.

I suppose my first question is - could this cause me any problems with my Rev. 9 Buster?

Secondly, i've heard about the CyberGFX software. What advantages would this give me and is it worth the investment over the standard drivers?

Thirdly - i've seen Scandoubler add-ons for the CV64/3D - should I try to source one of these or simply save up for one of the internal Eyetech models?

Fourthly - anything else I should be aware of with the Cybervision?

Fifthly - three weeks ago my Amiga usage was a bare motherboard in a DVD box and a jerry-rigged powersupply. Now i'm starting to get together a KICK-ASS machine !!! Sorry.

[stefcep]

The REV 9 buster has some bugs with the zorro III.  you are better off getting Rev 11 buster for everything zorro you may use.  

Cybergraphx (CGX) is the software which allows you to use your graphics card with its higher resolutions and more colors than the AGA.  You must have this or the alternative free Picasso 96 (P96) in order to use your cv64/3d.  Personally i payed for CGX V4 because I found that on Phase 5 boards ( i have both a cv64 and cv64/3d with scan doubler in my a4000) that CGX is more reliable, more compatible, and faster than P96.

One of the cool things that you now get with your graphics card is the option to get better SOUND out of Paula, via AHI, so you can play mp3's in 14 bit and 44100 hz (upto 56 khz), which sounds pretty good..but the latest version of cGX v4.2 rev 11 has a bug in it which will only allow you to open a pal/ntsc screen once only if you choos a 56kHZ sound option., but you can get aruond this

I would recommend sourcing the scan doubler that was available for the CV64/3d.

the cV64/3d has a built-in primitive 3d function which has some use for showing video eg mpeg in a window

[redrumloa]

If you are getting a bare card you wil need either CGFX or P96. CGFX 3.0 is free IIRC and CGFX is retail. P96 is free to use, but you should really pay the registration which is only $20.

Personally I've used the original CV64 in the past and I recomend P96 overall.

[darksun9210]

a revision 9 buster chip isn't going to be too much of a problem. i used a CV64/3D in a rev 9 buster A4000 for a long time with ethernet and GVP scsi, for a time and didn't have any problems. and CGX4 is worth paying for over CGX3. just for the speed ups.

however, if you can get a ver11 buster then life will be a little easier with regard to things like A2091 cards and ZorroIII PCi adapters.

[Kronos]

@redrumloa

P96 is NOT free to use,it is unrestricted shareware.

Using it for longer than an reasonable eval-period is just the same as
using a "borrowed" copy of CGX4 .....

CGX3 is the only really free alternative.

[Brian]

Buster 9 should bring no problems with a CV64/3D and as said before Picasso96 is great with it. :-)

Sadly had to part with my CV64/3D not that long ago, got an offer I couldn't refuce (swap with an A4000/030/Picollo and an A1200). :-D

[Framiga]

@dandelion

no problems about Buster Rev 9 with CV643D (it is a ZorroII-ZorroIII autosensing).

I suggest you to test P96 before.

If you can, buy its Scandoubler.

Take a look HERE

Ciao

[Casper]

One of the cool things that you now get with your graphics card is the option to get better SOUND out of Paula, via AHI, so you can play mp3's in 14 bit and 44100 hz (upto 56 khz), which sounds pretty good..

I did that on my A1200 and I don't have a graphics card.

[dandelion]

One of the cool things that you now get with your graphics card is the option to get better SOUND out of Paula, via AHI, so you can play mp3's in 14 bit and 44100 hz (upto 56 khz), which sounds pretty good..but the latest version of cGX v4.2 rev 11 has a bug in it which will only allow you to open a pal/ntsc screen once only if you choos a 56kHZ sound option., but you can get aruond this
the cV64/3d has a built-in primitive 3d function which has some use for showing video eg mpeg in a window

These sound like interesting features. Are the added sounds and mpeg features available from within the CybergraphX software or do I need some extra freeware?

[redrumloa]

@Kronos

I said free to use, as in evaluate. It is unrestricted, you are just nit-picking my wording :-P

I have registered P96 at least 3 times in the past. Once just because the speed they helped me with support.

[Kronos]

@red

Just to make sure that noone is lead to believe that P96 is free of charge ....

[Casper]

These sound like interesting features. Are the added sounds and mpeg features available from within the CybergraphX software or do I need some extra freeware?

It has nothing to do with either CybergraphX or the graphicscard itself. I was quite a while since I did this, but it has something to do with the customchips going faster or something when using screenmodes above 15kHz. It works on my A1200 with only native AGA when displaying the productivity screenmode on my multisync monitor.

[Orjan]

Regarding the Buster question, I now qoute the manual ( http://www.dcecom.de/pub/Manuals/cv643d.pdf ) under chapter "Troubleshooting":

"It is not possible to operate the CYBERVISION 64/3D with accelerated processor cards, if the motherboard is operated with any other than the original frequency of 25MHz. Overclocking the Busterchip causes the Zorro3 bus to malfunction. We recommend installing a Buster revision 11 for error free functioning of the CYBERVISION 64/3D."

[tintin]

I know the CV64 has a jumper that can be set for the rev 9 Buster chips. Not setting this jumper would give all kinds of artifacts with the CGX drivers and would make P96 drivers crash.  Setting it would take care of all problems, giving trouble free operation with both sets of drivers.
 I don't know if the CV64/3D has the same jumper though.  
 I just sold my CV64 so I cannot look  up the location of the jumper in the manual anymore. :-(