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Offline WulfmanTopic starter

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HELP OS 3.5 install problems!!
« on: September 23, 2003, 01:32:33 AM »
I am trying to install OS 3.5 on my A4000D, it is not going well.  After installing 3.1, I reboot and my machine GURU's before loading work bench.  It executes the User-Startup lines and then crashes shortly after (when trying to load wb?)

It has also come up with a requestor saying that the Sys drive is not valid.

I am running an 8 gig IDE drive from the Amigas IDE controller (formatted with only two 2 gig partitions).  My CD ROM drive is a SCSI II drive controlled by my Warp Engine 040/40.

This sytem works great under 3.0, but I'd like to get it updated to 3.5.  I would greatly appreciate an help!

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Re: HELP OS 3.5 install problems!!
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2003, 03:00:19 AM »
@ Wulfman -

Say - I recognize that car you're using as your avatar!!   :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D   Ooh-ah!

But on to you're problem, this could be a couple things.  First, when you did the fresh install of 3.1, did you do it on a new drive/fresh partition?  If so, did you format it with DC-FFS?  IF SO, then you're f*d, and you're best option is to reformat it with standard FFS-INTL and reinstall 3.1 again.

I've been where you are - Workbench starts to boot, volume SYS: (or whatever, in my case, it was Workbench3.9:) invalid, then bam - red screen of death.  There's a long technical reason for this, which is still a thorn in my side to this day.

Other option might be that it's a software problem.  Have you tried isolating each line in S:Startup-Sequence and S:User-Startup?  See if you can determine - is it a specific program that it's crashing on?  AFAIR a fresh install of 3.1 shouldn't install anything that would make your system unstable, but maybe for your 4000 system it's missing some crucial driver or something?

Good Luck,
Mike

PS - I'm driving a dog-gone '72 Buick right now, the last of my Olds'es is up on blocks out in the garage with only half a transmission in it.  Darn Buick, that thing breaks down on me about every other week - thought I was getting a good deal - should've stuck with Oldsmobile! :-o
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Re: HELP OS 3.5 install problems!!
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2003, 03:24:04 AM »
Hi Mike,

I don't remember how I formatted the drive.  I can't remember how execute the startup, user-startup one line at a time.

I may clean it off and start over with a freshly formatted HD and 3.0, although I would prefer not to.

I have Oldsmobiles since my first car in 1975.  My first car was a '68 Hurst Olds, really, no kidding!  I've had the 68 in my avitar for 8 years.  I picked up a 67 CS three years ago and converting it into a 442 clone.

Love those cars!
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: HELP OS 3.5 install problems!!
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2003, 03:47:28 AM »
@Wulfman -

Are you anywhere near Northern Virginia?  I've only met one other Olds collector around here, his name was also Mike, and he had 3 Oldsmobiles, one of which was a convertible (same as my collection - sniff - used to be).  I called him "my evil twin."   :-o  :-D

Ok, as far as the startup, I'm sure somebody else besides me probably has a better idea, but how I do it is like this:

Since I'm frequently changing stuff, I keep several backup copies of my Startup-Sequence and User-Startup in a subdirectory.  When I want to see my system boot like Linux, diagnostically, I copy something like the following as the main S:Startup-Sequence:

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Echo "Making directories..."

C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards

Echo "Mounting ENV data..."

C:MountENV

Echo "Starting FBlit..."

C:FBlit

Echo "Starting MCP..."

C:MCP
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Etc.  Sorry, that's not exacly the whole thing, but I'm at my PeeSee right now, staring wistfully at my Miggy, and wishing it were a Pegasos. :-D

But the point of all this was, now as it's executing the Startup-Sequence, it first displays a line saying what it's doing.  Then if you see it crash, you should have a pretty good idea what line caused it.  Then, going back into Ed, try commenting out that line (with a ; character at the beginning), and see if it then will boot.

Good Luck,
Mike
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Re: HELP OS 3.5 install problems!!
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2003, 03:49:23 AM »
Check to see if your 68040.library is the correct one for your Warp engine.  If your card requires a special library it's possible that the 3.5 installer replaced it with a standard one.

Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

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Re: HELP OS 3.5 install problems!!
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2003, 06:46:54 AM »
Ok, I got it going.

The AsimCDFS was causing the trouble (or more likely, the install messed it up).  So, after installing 3.1, I booted without a Startup-Sequence, then put semi-colons in front of the User-Startup lines.  3.1 would then boot to Workbench.

I reinstalled Asim CDFS version 3, removed the semi colons from the Startup-Sequence, and rebooted.  It works!  Wahoo!

Mike, I live in Arizona.  Do you still have the W-30 convertible?  If you are still into the Olds thing, go here:  http://www.realoldspower.com/

Thanks for the help guys.
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