OS4 will never see the light of day on a PowerUP board

[MarkTime]

Folks, I've been watching this community for many years and eventually you begin to notice a pattern or two.

First something is delayed, then its downplayed whether the announcement ever occurred even, and then the project is cancelled.

Call me a troll, say I'm wrong.....lets take down names and save posts for later recollection.

But OS 4 will never see the light of day on the PowerUP boards.

Once the priority shifted, when will the priority ever shift back?  Never....of course not, the powerup boards are ancient.

It will just be easier to cancel it later after the excitement of OS 4's release for the AmigaONE, then it is just to admit it now.

OK, Hyperion, jump in and call me a liar.

Cause, I will save the post, and remember it, and post it back to you a year from now when you cancel the project.

[HyperionMP]

You're not a liar, just somebody who doesn't have a clue.

It will only be matter of days before I can reveal why we TEMPORARILY shifted our priority to the AmigaOne version of OS 4.

Meanwhile development of the Cyberstorm version has been continuing, just at a slower pace as both Hans-Joerg and Thomas were not working on it.

The OS 4 betatesters can testify however that new PPC OS 4 binaries were made available to them on a nearly daily basis and that includes the weekends.

[alx]

I don't agree - ATM OS4 appears to be fairly complete on the CSPPC, with the A1 version behind.  While I know nothing about making OS4, I'd imagine that there's no way that they can get an A1 version done before the CSPPC one - so surely they'd release that first to prove that its not vapour?

About the PowerUP boards being old - remember that there are quite a few people who wanted OS4 68k :-)

[EntilZha]

No, the AmigaOne version will not come before the CSPPC version.  I heard that this rumour was making the round, but it's wrong.

And no, MarkTime, I'm not calling you a liar. Just a troll.

I invite you to save the message. When OS4 for the CSPPC is out, I'm really curious if you bring it up again.

[MarkTime]

@HyperionMP,

there isn't much to say, except time will tell.
even after reading your post, my opinion hasn't changed...

Temporary changes become permanent....happens all the time.   Just as you have some super secret announcement to make in a few days, about some deal that made it imperative to do OS 4 for AmigaONE first....there will be other deals and other priorities as time moves.

You can't see it.  I know you can't.  You are not a liar either....I know it.

What if AmigaONE is fantastically successful.  What if it is so successful that you could sell 10 million copies if only you could get 4.2 out the door, or 100 million if OS 5 was done.....I don't believe those things will happen, of course, but the point is, the time is coming to an end when OS 4 for CSPPC makes any sense at all.

The writings on the wall.

By the way, you've released the OS 4 betatesters to 'testify' about their experiences?
And, also, don't think I'm questioning all the work that was done on CSPPC and the daily binary updates...I don't question it.

[olegil]

It's quite funny to see some people saying the AmigaOne version will be out a year later than the CSPPC version while others are saying the CSPPC version won't be out at all.

Really, the explanation I've managed to piece together from scraps here and there really does make sense, and only complete trolls will refuse to agree with the decision to delay the CSPPC version a week or two when Hyperion makes the proper announcement a few days from now.

No, I'm not kidding :-)

[KennyR]

I don't know how anyone could consider using CPPC permanently for a new PPC OS anyway. As a taster to see how good OS4 is before buying an A1 - maybe. But having myself tasted the benefits of cheap fast memory, a ATA/100 IDE bus, a 600MHz CPU, AGP+PCI, inbuilt USB and ethernet, etc. I don't think I could go back to using my BPPC for anything but nostaligia. And let's be honest - do many people's A4ks still actually work properly on each boot now?

[Rogue]

except time will tell.

And you take it upon yourself to make this "MarkTime will tell"?

This posting was completely uncalled for. What was the use for it? Just to prove your value as a prophet, or to make yourself know as a troll again? It is people like you that poison this community. State hearsay, fiction or rumour as fact, post it to a forum, lean back and enjoy the flame wars.

And I bet you are mighty proud of yourself.

[amigamad]

A sad post by the no1 troll. :-(

[Matt_H]

Axing OS4 for the Cyberstorm would not make financial sense.

There are probably as many if not more CyberStorm owners than AmigaOne owners. Even if there are in fact fewer, it's still another market that can be tapped for a minimal investment.

Why would Hyperion throw away all the money invested in the Cyberstorm version?

[Paul_Gadd]

It is people like you that poison this community.

No the REAL poison is the mickey mouse Amiga companies what do more damage than good.

Also the guy is stating opinions not trolling which you guys always cry "troll" when you don't like someones thoughts/opinions on something.

[Rogue]

Also the guy is stating opinions not trolling which you guys always cry "troll" when you don't like someones thoughts/opinions on something.

There is a difference between stating your opinion and spreading FUD. If I would say now that I don't believe the Pegasos II will come out, and would call that my opinion, everyone would jump at me and call *me* a troll. And they would be right.

Of course, if it matches your opinion, it's opinion. If it matches the other one's opinion, it's FUD.

Go eat some of your own medicine.

[Warface]

To be frank, I don't believe a word of MarkTime's word. However. I believed the 2001 august AmigaONE/OS4 release date. I believed the 2001 november release date, and a thousand more release dates.

Now that there is no release date set (damn, were it Hyperion or someone else hinting a 2003 september release date for OS4?) I cannot see why it can't be met. It's not a hardware product, it can be made in spare time, and it requires just that: time and a few coders.

However, I clearly remember what Wayne Hunt received when expressed his opinion about AmigaOS4 won't be released for a couple of months at least - early this year.

Are you aware that when you speak of the poison of the community you speak about broken and unfulfilled promises? You are carrying a heavy burden at Hyperion and I respect you for that - but the same applies for this company which saw countless projects die vanish in thin air...

They became more bitter, many have departed, got fed up...

The situation is hard for everyone - Marktime, this time I think there is no need to increase the tension even more. Frustration gets the worst of us - just look at the thousand craps and "news" from all over the community, regardless of camps or beliefs. Everyone spits out their hatred, frustration - and it just makes more damage.

[Tomas]

I dont think hyperion has ever set a release date yet, it is amigainc that has broken release dates time after time...

[EntilZha]

Also the guy is stating opinions not trolling which you guys always cry "troll" when you don't like someones thoughts/opinions on something.

Blah, blah, blah. Nonsense. People like you and MarkTime are always good at shouting "Opinion" if it suits your need, and "trolling" when it's the other way around.

Very nice of you that you deny me the right to defend myself. Everytime somebody of us tries to set some nonsense right, some one like you come up with this ####.