PC still playing Amiga catchup

[EvilGuy]

There has to be something wrong with their machines if they can't play back 10 audio streams concurrently. Most current generation games will throw a few dozen audio streams together at any given instant and find plenty of time to render some eye popping visuals.

But they won't be able to use a joystick as quick as an unexpanded A500 can! Bwahaha PCs suck so much!!!! :-)

[the_leander]

Hi,

@the_leander

Know what you mean, the last 2 people that took the challenge I had to lend them my usb floppy drive, in a way I cheated on this since most PC's almost shut down when trying to format a floppy disk and write to them.

Oddness. Formatting floppies, even on win2k always seemed fine on my athlonxp system (which is... 4PC's ago), then again I did set it so that each explorer window ran in it's own individual thread, which improved multitasking performance (not to mention stability) no end.

So, what exactly were the terms for this challenge?

I mean, was it a from boot race or?? Just curious.

[smerf]

There has to be something wrong with their machines if they can't play back 10 audio streams concurrently. Most current generation games will throw a few dozen audio streams together at any given instant and find plenty of time to render some eye popping visuals.

Hi,

@Karlos,

P poor planning mostly on their part, they tried to copy me by putting on music, trying to format their floppy drive, and then trying to copy files from one hard drive to another while downloading files off the internet at the same time, try it on your PC and see what happens, I know when I try to format a floppy on my machine it sort of clogs up the whole buss lines and renders the computer almost useless. Some things just never change on a PC.

smerf

[ElPolloDiabl]

There has to be something wrong with their machines if they can't play back 10 audio streams concurrently. Most current generation games will throw a few dozen audio streams together at any given instant and find plenty of time to render some eye popping visuals.

Can someone explain the sluggish IDE/editor performane of QBasic under Windows XP. The programs run fine (at the speed you will expect from the CPU).

[stefcep2]

The "Amiga" can't--a third party product can. Anyone so inclined (and qualified) could write a similar extension for Linux or Windows.

but they haven't, and at least some of them want a different scheduler to the standard one Linux gives them, but the the closest they have is to make you use a different kernel.

Who knows? You do. You have the source.

How many people in the world really know what all the source code in the Linux kernel does?  And which would you prefer: a GUI driven utility that installs with two clicks, that lets you change your scheduler to suit you preferred usage pattern, or going through the entire source code to make sure your new kernel with the updated scheduler will even let you boot?

[stefcep2]

Hi,

@Karlos,

P poor planning mostly on their part, they tried to copy me by putting on music, trying to format their floppy drive, and then trying to copy files from one hard drive to another while downloading files off the internet at the same time, try it on your PC and see what happens, I know when I try to format a floppy on my machine it sort of clogs up the whole buss lines and renders the computer almost useless. Some things just never change on a PC.

smerf

But Smerf don't you get their standard reply yet:  "they don't use a floppies, so they don't format them, they don't care, it doesn't matter.  PC wins"

[the_leander]

But Smerf don't you get their standard reply yet:  "they don't use a floppies, so they don't format them, they don't care, it doesn't matter.  PC wins"

Oh do grow up.

[stefcep2]

Oh do grow up.

yeah you are right, it IS a juvenile way to look at it but hell its managed to convince most people here so I thought I'd give it a shot...again.

[the_leander]

The responses to smerfs tests has been one of curiosity and speculation on possible causes. Nothing like what you're implying.

yeah you are right, it IS a juvenile way to look at it but hell its managed to convince most people here so I thought I'd give it a shot...again.

The only person who is taking this line, parodied or otherwise, is you.

[the_leander]

How many people in the world really know what all the source code in the Linux kernel does?

Probably about the same as the number who understand what a scheduler does.

 And which would you prefer: a GUI driven utility that installs with two clicks, that lets you change your scheduler to suit you preferred usage pattern,

What, you mean something like this:

 or going through the entire source code to make sure your new kernel with the updated scheduler will even let you boot?

You don't need to do that, you select the module you want. Hell, in a large distro like Ubuntu I suspect you could replace the scheduler module from precompiled binaries from the repos if you knew where to look.

[stefcep2]

The responses to smerfs tests has been one of curiosity and speculation on possible causes. Nothing like what you're implying.



The only person who is taking this line, parodied or otherwise, is you.

But I've heard it said sooo many times and I swear ot wasn't me saying it.

[bloodline]

But Smerf don't you get their standard reply yet:  "they don't use a floppies, so they don't format them, they don't care, it doesn't matter.  PC wins"

It is a valid response, tell me how many music tracks you can play while saving a program to an audio cassette on your amiga?

Once hardware has become obsolete, it is no longer on the good side of the catch up game.

[stefcep2]

Probably about the same as the number who understand what a scheduler does.

A lot more would know what a scheduler does, considerably less would know what the entire source code of the Linux kernel does.

What, you mean something like this:

Something like it, but it does not change the scheduler itself, but merely gives you one of two choices.  You might call it Scheduler-Lite, you know, the margarine of scheduling GUI's.

You don't need to do that, you select the module you want. Hell, in a large distro like Ubuntu I suspect you could replace the scheduler module from precompiled binaries from the repos if you knew where to look.

firstly do KNOW or merely suspect?  Secondly I doubt it would interest non-coders to dabble with the kernel source code.

[stefcep2]

It is a valid response, tell me how many music tracks you can play while saving a program to an audio cassette on your amiga?

Once hardware has become obsolete, it is no longer on the good side of the catch up game.

Too funnny!!  We now have a "good" and "bad" side of the catch up game.  Floppies are still being made and still being used..on PC's.  Never ever saved any amiga program to an audio cassette ( can it be done)

[bloodline]

Too funnny!!  We now have a "good" and "bad" side of the catch up game.  Floppies are still being made and still being used..on PC's.  Never ever saved any amiga program to an audio cassette ( can it be done)

The catch up game is a two horse race, and you don't want to be the trailing horse...

I've never saved any PC program to a floppy using a Mac (or Window Vista), can it be done?

Audio cassettes are still being made and used, I even dusted off my old ZX81 and loaded a space invaders game from Audio Cassette to show my younger brother* a little while ago!

*He's 14 and has little idea what a floppy disk is, CDROM, Email and USBflash drives are all he knows.

[the_leander]

Something like it, but it does not change the scheduler itself

Being able to switch modes was your big "win" for the Executive drop in replacement for the Amiga. You can't replace Exec with Executive and not have the Amiga in question reboot in order to change it.

, but merely gives you one of two choices.  You might call it Scheduler-Lite, you know, the margarine of scheduling GUI's.

It fulfills the requirement of being able to fundamentally change sheduling within the OS without requiring a reboot. Interesting that since I pointed to it you're now trying to dismiss it as something lesser when it clearly matches the original complaint.

firstly do KNOW or merely suspect?  Secondly I doubt it would interest non-coders to dabble with the kernel source code.

rotfl. Re read what you've written there, now compare it to what you're accusing everyone else who disagrees with you of doing.