PC still playing Amiga catchup

[smerf]

Hi,

@Karlos,

Ok, enough, it takes you 30 seconds to reinit your computer from leaving it on, well guess what I left my Amiga on all night, all I did was turn off the LCD, turned back on my LCD and the Amiga was there ready and waiting, but darn I had to wait for my 24 inch LCD to turn on it took a total of 3 seconds, next time I won't turn if off hate waiting for this new stuff to work.

Now, lets talk about loading in a new fresh copy of your OS,

How long does it take windblows?

How long does it take Linux?

How long does it take Amiga OS 3.1?

How long does it take Amiga OS 3.1 with OS 3.9?

AMIGA WINS!!!

Windows SUCKS

Linux comes in 2nd

The PC is still trying to catch up to Amiga

smerf

[Karlos]

Hi,

@Karlos,

Ok, enough, it takes you 30 seconds to reinit your computer from leaving it on, well guess what I left my Amiga on all night, all I did was turn off the LCD, turned back on my LCD and the Amiga was there ready and waiting, but darn I had to wait for my 24 inch LCD to turn on it took a total of 3 seconds, next time I won't turn if off hate waiting for this new stuff to work.

Now, lets talk about loading in a new fresh copy of your OS,

How long does it take windblows?

How long does it take Linux?

How long does it take Amiga OS 3.1?

How long does it take Amiga OS 3.1 with OS 3.9?

AMIGA WINS!!!

Windows SUCKS

Linux comes in 2nd

The PC is still trying to catch up to Amiga

smerf

My dear fellow, do try to keep up

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=508702&postcount=168

I actually posted the boot times of my machines, completely from cold, earlier in the thread. Sadly, the A1200 lost the race between the two of them. Live with it.

However, I'll happily agree with you all that Vista isn't quick to start, despite whittling away all the unwanted gubbins.

PS:

OS4 on the G4 800 was fastest of all of them

[koaftder]

My dear fellow, do try to keep up

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=508702&postcount=168

I actually posted the boot times of my machines, completely from cold, earlier in the thread. Sadly, the A1200 lost the race between the two of them. Live with it.

However, I'll happily agree with you all that Vista isn't quick to start, despite whittling away all the unwanted gubbins.

PS:

OS4 on the G4 800 was fastest of all of them

I detect some competition. I will beat all of you. Here is a boot loader I wrote the other day, to load my custom OS for my pc:

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; Description: dVMOS boot loader
; Author:      Brian Craig Miller
; Date:        2009-MAY-26
; Version:     4
; assembler:   fasm
#make_boot#

org 7c00h

secnum equ 5 ; number of sectors after sector one to load

sector1:
    cli ; disable interrupts
   
    ;setup temporary stack out of te way
    mov dx, 08000h
    mov ss,dx
    mov sp, 0ffffh
   
    ; make es point to paragraph 0
    push 0
    pop es
    sti ; enable interrupts
           
    ; setup registers for the copy routine      
    mov bx, 07e00h ; address of free memory
    mov cl, 2

loadkernel:
    call copysector
    add cl, 1     ; move to next sector
    add bx, 512   ; area to move next sector into
    cmp cl, secnum + 1
    jne loadkernel
   
runkernel:
    ; jump to our kernel
    push 07e0h ; cs
    push 00000 ; ip    
    retf      
   
copysector:
    pusha
    mov ah, 02h ; read sector
    mov al, 1   ; read one sector
    mov ch, 0   ; cylinder 0
    ;mov cl, 3   ; second sector            
    mov dh, 0   ; head 0
    mov dl, 0   ; drive 0
    int 13h     ; bios disk routines
    popa
    ret


 
db 510-($-sector1) dup (090h)   ;fill out restof sector with zeroes
dw 0AA55h ; sector signature bios needs to identify bootable sec

On my 1.6GHz p4, I can go from cold start to ganking 6 sectors of the floppy and running my "kernel" in 2 seconds flat. I could cut some time off by stuffing the whole thing in a boot rom on a network card. Hell, I could get a 1second boot if I just ditched the sparse bios routines and stuff my crap in the bios flash rom it's self.

Oh, and Amiga OS is bloated compared to my OS. Every *byte* accounted for. I have you all beat. :roflmao:

[smerf]

Hi,

@Karlos

NO, NO,NO

I don't mean boot times, I mean loading in a new copy of your OS on the computer, like starting with a new hard drive.

Amiga wins

smerf

[smerf]

Hi,

No not really. I don't think the PC is playing ketchup, but I do think that it is in a pickle, or is it that the Amiga is in a pickle, not actually Amiga Inc. is the Company that made hamburg out of the Amiga putting it in a pickle, see that Amiga Inc. can't do anything right, they put the hamburg in a pickle instead of the pickle on the hamburg, but where is the ketchup?

smerf

[smerf]

Hi,

@koaftder

Hey has anyone tried the boot time on CPM?

Bet is beats everyone hands down

smerf

[persia]

Hah my notebook beat the Amiga, I just flip the page and put my pencil done and I'm off.

Noterbook: ready instantly
Amiga: has to boot up

Notebook: start writing instantly
Amiga: have to load a word processing program

Notebook: can use anywhere, any time
Amiga: needs electricity

[GadgetMaster]

Hi,

@koaftder

Hey has anyone tried the boot time on CPM?

Bet is beats everyone hands down

smerf

My Abacus didn't even need to be booted.

Beat that! :laughing:

[Karlos]

Hi,

@Karlos

NO, NO,NO

I don't mean boot times, I mean loading in a new copy of your OS on the computer, like starting with a new hard drive.

Amiga wins

smerf

That depends. You might have to replace your ROM chips before you begin. You know, small things like that

[Karlos]

My Abacus didn't even need to be booted.

Beat that! :laughing:

Sure it does, you have to push all the beads into their correct initial places before you use it, right?

[GadgetMaster]

Hah my notebook beat the Amiga, I just flip the page and put my pencil done and I'm off.

Noterbook: ready instantly
Amiga: has to boot up

Notebook: start writing instantly
Amiga: have to load a word processing program

Notebook: can use anywhere, any time
Amiga: needs electricity

Ah but did your pencil and notebook take longer to construct than my abacus?

Lets see, pencil needs lead adding to it and sharpening.
notebook is made by pulping wood first to make paper and then is processed into a book.

Abacus is just lumps of wood rounded and strung in a row.

See
Abacus wins
Notebook and pencil lose. :lol:

[GadgetMaster]

Hi,

No not really. I don't think the PC is playing ketchup, but I do think that it is in a pickle, or is it that the Amiga is in a pickle, not actually Amiga Inc. is the Company that made hamburg out of the Amiga putting it in a pickle, see that Amiga Inc. can't do anything right, they put the hamburg in a pickle instead of the pickle on the hamburg, but where is the ketchup?

smerf

:roflmao:

[GadgetMaster]

Sure it does, you have to push all the beads into their correct initial places before you use it, right?

Unless you have them all aligned to the left to start with all the time. So shutdown might tike a tad longer but at least the Abacus can reawaken from its sleep mode instantly.

No more waiting for the monitor to warm up or the pencil to be sharpened.
:juggler:
:bitch:
:mickeymouse:

[adz]

Boot up with what you want to do with the system is a better way to look at it.  If I want to test a kernel mode driver on Windows XP which will cause many crashes during testing stage, the Amiga OS wins hands down in boot up time.  

As far as the 78MP TIFF image goes, you could tile the image and use a format that fits for the system at hand.  Just because PCs had ability to load into RAM (or virtual RAM), doesn't mean it can't be done on systems with less memory.  I have written software that can edit 600MB images using 16 MB of RAM.  It's nothing to do with the system.  It depends on the software.

What part of the word example don't you understand? Besides which, I never doubted that you could actually open a large image, my point was how long it would take to open said image.

[smerf]

That depends. You might have to replace your ROM chips before you begin. You know, small things like that

Hi,

@Karlos,

Well!!!

You might have to flash your bios on your new system in order to get things to run correctly on XP, VISTA or the New Windows 7.

You see that Amigians are ROM CHANGERS

While you PC users are flashers, you can get arrested for that don't you know.

smerf

[smerf]

My Abacus didn't even need to be booted.

Beat that! :laughing:

Hi,

@GadgetMaster,

I just use my fingers and toes, my fingers go up to ten, then my toes calculate the tens this gives me a calculation up to a buck 10, and the best part they have automatic reset requiring no boot time at all, but some times my toes crash while being booted.

Beat that! :laughing:[/QUOTE]
smerf