PC Emulation

[Nick]

Sorry to ask such questions, but, I will anyway.

When we get our AmigaOnes with tons of extra power for old 68k programs, what will the old
PC emulators be capable of. Do they have the code to run Windows 95? As bad as it is, its better
than 3.1. Though I don`t really know why I would want to run Windows 95, but I`m just wondering if it
is possible.

[Hammer]

Rent or barrow a late model Power Macintosh with SoftWindows/SoftPC/PPCBochs installed.

PS;
1. I recall SoftWindows may also include a licensed MS Windows source code.
2. I doubt those PC emulators will run DirectX 5 class titles at sufficient frame rates.

[mpdox]

I hardly imagine it will work. On the other hand, Amiga won't live emulating other OSes... I've been there with OS/2 in the past...
But I understand your needs for lots of applications. You can get a computer a couple of hundred euros and it will run windows 95 better than any other emulation thing... I know, you want an Amiga. Let's hope Amiga will have native applications...
Only the future will tell, tough...

[Nick]

I doubted it too, but it was worth a look into. I don`t really want to buy a PC with Windows 95. I
don`t even know why I would want to run it :-) Its not great now is it. Just curious.

Thanks

[xeron]

IIRC both PCx and PC-Tasks final versions could boot 95, but it was tricky. You had to skip hardware detection during setup (it would just hang), and some other things...

I'm not sure if they'll work in OS4 though. RTG support was minimal in both emulators IIRC.

[JoNty]

Maybe someone'll code a decent 586 software emulator, or port Bochs.

[Rassilon]

PCX could not run Windows 95 because it lacked full Pentium emulation.

PC-Task however had full 486 emulation, and it was using this emulator that I had Windows95 running on my Blizzard060/66.

[Desler]

Porting Bochs would probably be the best short term solution.
A pc emulation option is desireble no matter how cheap a pc gets. I would prefer to open a slow windows emultator, emulating a ex 100-200mhz 586, by clicking twice on an icon on the WB instead of changing monitors, turning on a 3 ghz pc, booting and then finding the right program

[Jupp3]

PCx emulates Pentium, but lacks MMX (Which "486-only" PC-Task has)
much likely preventing Windows 95 from working...

Works on PC-Task, but it is quite slow, even on 060...

And about Bochs, afaik, it already IS ported to MorphOS...

[JurassicCamper]

I had Win95 running under PCTask on and a clocked 060 64Mhz / Bvision it was unusable even with the Frame skip set to 8.

You could run win 3.1 at a respectable speed if you loaded it with Win/S at the command prompt.

OK for playing solitare, and DOS programs like FOXPRO and DOS environments like QBasic and Pascal.

I even tryed some DOS games like Sam & Max / X-Wing and they were unplayable even with a clocked 060.

Hopefully if the JIT 68K emulator in OS4 on a 800Mhz G4 is a good as the bench marks suggest then Win95 PC-Task 4.4 might be usuable.

mmm a dynamicly emulated 486 on an JIT emulated 68040 running on a G4...... Curious

I do hope a native PPC PC emulator does appear however.

[Crumb]

PCx emulates Pentium, but lacks MMX (Which "486-only" PC-Task has)

PC-Task does not emulate MMX instructions. In fact you don't need MMX to run any windows version...
Windows 95/98/ME can run in any 486.

[whabang]

Jupp3 wrote:
PCx emulates Pentium, but lacks MMX (Which "486-only" PC-Task has)
much likely preventing Windows 95 from working...

Works on PC-Task, but it is quite slow, even on 060...

And about Bochs, afaik, it already IS ported to MorphOS...

Err...
WTF are you rambling about?!? :-?
I dunno about PCx, but PC-task can emulate a 486, which does NOT have the MMX instructions!
Windows 95 can run with as little as a 386 and 4 Mb RAM ( but that's probably even slower than PC-task on my EC030 :-P ), so PC-task would in theory would be enough...

But you're right about BOCHS being the best bet for a PC-emu for the A1. Would be really cool if it was combined with something like WINE, but that's kinda unrealistic...  :-D

[BADHead]

What about PPC Amithlon(PC Emulation) for
the Amiga One -Just a Thought  :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o

[whabang]

BADHead wrote:
What about PPC Amithlon(PC Emulation) for
the Amiga One -Just a Thought  :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o

Would be an interesting way to run Windows on an OS4 machine... :-D

[redrumloa]

Egad my eyes feel dirty after reading these comments, I need to wash them out with soap! :-P

Wintendo emulation in IS4? Baah :-o

hehe jk.