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Workbench 3.1 not booting
« on: May 10, 2009, 12:51:34 PM »
I installed workbench 3.1 on my A600 with Kickstart 3.1 rom .

Everything installed fine but when i reboot i just get the AmigaDOS screen and no commands work .

It wont take any commands and loadwb does not work .

If i boot with floppy i can see that it installed in the HD .

What is wrong ?

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Re: Workbench 3.1 not booting
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2009, 12:54:00 PM »
Broken ROM?
Broken RAM?
Corrupted Hard drive?

Did you set the MAX TRANSFER value correct for IDE hard drive in HDToolbox when preparing the hard drive?
 

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Re: Workbench 3.1 not booting
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2009, 12:56:26 PM »
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Broken ROM?
Broken RAM?
Corrupted Hard drive?

Did you set the MAX TRANSFER value correct for IDE hard drive in HDToolbox when preparing the hard drive?


I didnt prep the HD . It was previously installed in an A1200 and had OS3.9 installed .

I just did a Quick Format and installed 3.1
A1200HD- Blizzard 1230IV / 64Mb / Kick 3.1 / OS 3.9 / 20GB HD
A4000 040 @33Mhz -Kick 3.1 / 16MB
A2000 Rev4.4 - \'030 @25Mhz / 8MB / Kick 3.1 / ClassicWB
CD32 -     Stock (W/ 2 CD32 Controllers]
A500 Plus - 68000 / 2MB Chip / 2Mb Fast / 2.04/1.3 / A590 / A570
A600HD - 2MB Chip / 8MB Fast / 2GB CF HD / Kick 3.1
CDTV

PowerMac G4 1Ghz (MorphOS / Leopard)

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Re: Workbench 3.1 not booting
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2009, 01:08:05 PM »
wht's the size of the HDD ?
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Re: Workbench 3.1 not booting
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2009, 01:09:00 PM »
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wht's the size of the HDD ?


500Mb or something
A1200HD- Blizzard 1230IV / 64Mb / Kick 3.1 / OS 3.9 / 20GB HD
A4000 040 @33Mhz -Kick 3.1 / 16MB
A2000 Rev4.4 - \'030 @25Mhz / 8MB / Kick 3.1 / ClassicWB
CD32 -     Stock (W/ 2 CD32 Controllers]
A500 Plus - 68000 / 2MB Chip / 2Mb Fast / 2.04/1.3 / A590 / A570
A600HD - 2MB Chip / 8MB Fast / 2GB CF HD / Kick 3.1
CDTV

PowerMac G4 1Ghz (MorphOS / Leopard)

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Re: Workbench 3.1 not booting
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2009, 01:11:57 PM »
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wht's the size of the HDD ?


500Mb or something


When you boot from the floppy, can you directly read the contents of the hard disk?

If, having booted from floppy, you type:

DH0:C/list DH0:

does it work?
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Re: Workbench 3.1 not booting
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2009, 01:16:46 PM »
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Karlos wrote:
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dougal wrote:
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countzero wrote:
wht's the size of the HDD ?


500Mb or something


When you boot from the floppy, can you directly read the contents of the hard disk?

If, having booted from floppy, you type:

DH0:C/list DH0:

does it work?


If i boot with a workbench floppy i can see the contents from workbench
A1200HD- Blizzard 1230IV / 64Mb / Kick 3.1 / OS 3.9 / 20GB HD
A4000 040 @33Mhz -Kick 3.1 / 16MB
A2000 Rev4.4 - \'030 @25Mhz / 8MB / Kick 3.1 / ClassicWB
CD32 -     Stock (W/ 2 CD32 Controllers]
A500 Plus - 68000 / 2MB Chip / 2Mb Fast / 2.04/1.3 / A590 / A570
A600HD - 2MB Chip / 8MB Fast / 2GB CF HD / Kick 3.1
CDTV

PowerMac G4 1Ghz (MorphOS / Leopard)

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Re: Workbench 3.1 not booting
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2009, 01:19:29 PM »
it may be that the HDD is formatted with SFS which the 68000 on the A600 don't like.
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Re: Workbench 3.1 not booting
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2009, 01:25:21 PM »
Ok, this is starting to sound like the disk is installed but the partition is not bootable for whatever reason.

If you boot with both mouse buttons held down and get the early startup screen, do you see the hard disk partition in the list of bootable drives?

If it is not bootable, something went wrong before or during the install, but it should be fixable.

Having booted from floppy, can you find the HDToolbox program? It should hopefully be under the Tools directory on your hard disk.

It has been a long time since I saw OS3.1's HDToolbox program, but you should be able to select whichever partition you installed the OS on.

You need to check that it has been made bootable (there is a checkbox somewhere) and that the filesystem is supported. If it is anything other than FFS, you might have a problem. The fact that you can see it when booting from a floppy tends to suggest it isn't the filesystem, unless the floppy has had the filesystem installed on it.

Assuming it is FFS and the partition is not checked as bootable, all you should need to do is tick the bootable checkbox, save the changes to the drive and reboot.
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Re: Workbench 3.1 not booting
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2009, 02:22:01 PM »
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Karlos wrote:
Ok, this is starting to sound like the disk is installed but the partition is not bootable for whatever reason.

If you boot with both mouse buttons held down and get the early startup screen, do you see the hard disk partition in the list of bootable drives?

If it is not bootable, something went wrong before or during the install, but it should be fixable.

Having booted from floppy, can you find the HDToolbox program? It should hopefully be under the Tools directory on your hard disk.

It has been a long time since I saw OS3.1's HDToolbox program, but you should be able to select whichever partition you installed the OS on.

You need to check that it has been made bootable (there is a checkbox somewhere) and that the filesystem is supported. If it is anything other than FFS, you might have a problem. The fact that you can see it when booting from a floppy tends to suggest it isn't the filesystem, unless the floppy has had the filesystem installed on it.

Assuming it is FFS and the partition is not checked as bootable, all you should need to do is tick the bootable checkbox, save the changes to the drive and reboot.


It is bootable and it is FFS  :-?

I will have another go installing ... this time i will prepare the HD and partition it again , all afresh as it previously had OS3.9 installed on it (from my A1200)
A1200HD- Blizzard 1230IV / 64Mb / Kick 3.1 / OS 3.9 / 20GB HD
A4000 040 @33Mhz -Kick 3.1 / 16MB
A2000 Rev4.4 - \'030 @25Mhz / 8MB / Kick 3.1 / ClassicWB
CD32 -     Stock (W/ 2 CD32 Controllers]
A500 Plus - 68000 / 2MB Chip / 2Mb Fast / 2.04/1.3 / A590 / A570
A600HD - 2MB Chip / 8MB Fast / 2GB CF HD / Kick 3.1
CDTV

PowerMac G4 1Ghz (MorphOS / Leopard)

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Re: Workbench 3.1 not booting
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2009, 02:43:02 PM »
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Everything installed fine but when i reboot i just get the AmigaDOS screen and no commands work .


You installed to the wrong partition. Like DH0 is the boot partition and you installed to DH1.

In the DOS window enter CD. It will tell you which partition it booted from. Install WB onto this partition.

Or use HDToolbox to change the boot partition.

When installation begins, you are asked for your skill. Do *not* choose novice. Use advanced or expert. Then it will ask you where to install.

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Re: Workbench 3.1 not booting
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2009, 04:16:35 PM »
If Thomas is correct and you accidentally installed on DH1: (for example) you could remedy this without a reinstall.

Assuming nothing else was on DH1:, you could, having booted from a floppy, type the following into a shell

copy clone all dh1:#? dh0:

which would copy all the OS files over to DH0:

The machine should then be bootable.
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