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Future of Amiga
« on: May 09, 2009, 10:26:37 AM »
IMO the only way for Amiga to once again become a mainstream OS is to port OS4.x to x86 and create classic  card with a 68xxx based processor that could run all classic software.
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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2009, 10:30:40 AM »
Download AROS, the Icaros distribuion is a good one... Be happy :-)

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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 10:35:37 AM »
 :lol:  

:flame: "Be happy" = "Settle" here.

Amigans, innovators, and geniuses NEVER settle for less than the best--demand the best, and if they don't give it, stick another pin into their voodoo doll til they see the light. :roflmao:

 

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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2009, 11:21:58 AM »
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IMO the only way for Amiga to once again become a mainstream OS is to port OS4.x to x86 and create classic card with a 68xxx based processor that could run all classic software.


Not worth it.  You will need a complete rewrite to bring AOS up to modern standards. Add in the pricing of such a PCI-E card,  your making the retail cost down right silly for 25 year old software.  Only I can see that can remotely make some people happy is Anubis-OS and they need a heck of a lot more coders to get it up to speed.
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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2009, 11:35:44 AM »
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Not worth it. You will need a complete rewrite to bring AOS up to modern standards. Add in the pricing of such a PCI-E card, your making the retail cost down right silly for 25 year old software. Only I can see that can remotely make some people happy is Anubis-OS and they need a heck of a lot more coders to get it up to speed.



Hi dammy, nice to see you. :-D

Anubis. Just what the community needed--yet another OS to split coder allegiances. I told you in email Anubis won't last (I still think that). What happened that it got created, when AROS is|was supposedly going so well?

I recall proposing a similar idea on moobunny about a classic (as in chip) based PCI card to run the old classic stuff in regular PeeCees. Of *course* the Amiga OS would have to be modernized--the backward compatibility was just a small (even possibly optional) feature idea. There were bigger plans, a much bigger vision in mind. :angel:

(the death of Microsoft Windows is still part of that, of course)  8-)
 

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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2009, 12:31:41 PM »
Yep, AROS is your new x86 Amiga! Problem solved :-)
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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2009, 01:07:08 PM »
AROS has never been, nor will it ever be, my new AMIGA OS. I don't like AROS, and certainly not any of the developers working on it (especially Matt Parsons)
 

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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2009, 01:11:10 PM »
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AROS has never been, nor will it ever be, my new AMIGA OS. I don't like AROS, and certainly not any of the developers working on it (especially Matt Parsons)


WooHoo! :lol:

Remember me from ann.lu then ;-)

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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2009, 01:13:10 PM »
My old PC is more or less free now. It would make a fun AROS box, I suspect.
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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2009, 01:17:18 PM »
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My old PC is more or less free now. It would make a fun AROS box, I suspect.


Do it!!! I can't promise you more fun with a stinky old PC ;-)

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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2009, 01:21:45 PM »
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My old PC is more or less free now. It would make a fun AROS box, I suspect.


Do it!!! I can't promise you more fun with a stinky old PC ;-)


It'll probably happen, unless the good lady wants to take the machine.

I suppose there's nothing stopping me running AROS in a VM on the new PC, right? Four cores, I'm sure one of them can be spared for the job.
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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2009, 01:33:49 PM »
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My old PC is more or less free now. It would make a fun AROS box, I suspect.


Do it!!! I can't promise you more fun with a stinky old PC ;-)


It'll probably happen, unless the good lady wants to take the machine.

I suppose there's nothing stopping me running AROS in a VM on the new PC, right? Four cores, I'm sure one of them can be spared for the job.


Go on!!! Give it half an hour, Nothing to lose...  :-P

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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2009, 02:04:24 PM »
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IMO the only way for Amiga to once again become a mainstream OS is to port OS4.x to x86 and create classic card with a 68xxx based processor that could run all classic software.


How would that make it a mainstream OS?
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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2009, 02:07:11 PM »
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IMO the only way for Amiga to once again become a mainstream OS is to port OS4.x to x86 and create classic card with a 68xxx based processor that could run all classic software.


How would that make it a mainstream OS?


Also, why would you need a card for backwards compatibility? It isn't as if modern x86/x64 hardware isn't more than capable of software emulating everything in a classic Amiga flawlessly.
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Re: Future of Amiga
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2009, 02:13:24 PM »
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IMO the only way for Amiga to once again become a mainstream OS is to port OS4.x to x86 and create classic card with a 68xxx based processor that could run all classic software.


How would that make it a mainstream OS?


Also, why would you need a card for backwards compatibility? It isn't as if modern x86/x64 hardware isn't more than capable of software emulating everything in a classic Amiga flawlessly.


Not to mention, the horrific sync problems of using a real board... best just do all the emulation in software. :-)