POLL: Which word, in your opinion, best describes AMIGA today?

[HenryCase]

the_leander wrote:

amigadave wrote:
@bloodline,

Nothing personal,

You know, whenever I read this in a forum post, I can almost always expect for the rest of the post to be a snipe-fest...

I wasn't disapointed.

It is possible to have a go at what someone says without being overly aggressive towards them. You have to ask yourself whether you would really be that offended if amigadave's comments were directed at you.

[bloodline]

@amigadave

I find it hard to take anything personal on something as impersonal as an Internet forum!

I sound repetitive because people don't seem to understand what I am saying!

Progress would be an Amiga platform that is twice as powerful as that £199 PC but at the same price or cheaper! At the moment we are playing catch up... And catch up that is one 8th the performance at three times the price!

We will only ever play catch up now... We can't compete with the mega-budgets... :-)

[KimmoK]

@the_leander
"Care to cite a situation where an Amiga could do a job at least as well as even a £160(Comet) Aspire A1 netbook?"

Why would I?

I just said that Amiga can be used professionally again, meaning that we have new HW and SW to build our businesses.

Minimig might be a simpler and more power saving than Aspire for some embedded or kiosk use.
SAM440ep might be better for some other things (like to be used @ NokiaSiemensNetworks BTS R&D laboratories instead of 10x more pricey IBM board) or like to run a more performance hungry multimedia show.
Hollywood SW ....
etc...

and after one installs AROS natively to Aspire A1, I see it as "Amiga".



So. Amiga definitely LIVEs.

[amiga92570]

I think its fun to read all the opinions of the users here. That and a cup of coffee really get me going in the morning. I am Passionate about the past, but I don't let that confuse me with reality. I love repairing old computer equipment, playing with old software, but when I have to get to work I have to use newer hardware. Well I have to get some work done now so,

Hey Taxi---Pad five please.

[DiskDoctor]

To me Amiga is like a... Zombie :-) so neither.

However

Karlos wrote:
Really, it all depends on the context.

That's right.  To be general because I'm just onboard since January.  Let us take a look at the recent events I was witnessing:

-Sam440ep-flex shipping
-iMica available
-AmigaOS4 Pegasos2 release
-MorphOS for Minis shown being cooked
-FPGA Arcade news
-UAE4ALL for Nokia s60 preview
-AmiKit CD re-edition
-AmigaSYS Live portable

Some of those above might sound silly, some other were predictable.  But hell, to be honest, Amiga as a franchise is alive, man!  I mean you cannot program spaceships on it or create a 4d porn movies but hey, being alive doesn't have to imply being

-recognizable
-powerful
-productive
-of great performance
-competitive
-inexpensive
-etc.

Amiga Prevails! :-)

[Karlos]

Q: Which word, in your opinion, best describes AMIGA today?

A: Pancakes!





(anybody else remember that amiga.org meme?)

[orb85750]

orb85750 wrote:

persia wrote:
Yep, the Aspire runs leopard like a champ and Final Cut Express runs fine on it.  

You're running Final Cut on an Aspire *ONE*? (re: original question)  What type of pro hacking was required to get Leopard up and running on it?  Easy enough?  Total cost of system with above software and any required hardware upgrades?

Persia, can you show us Final Cut on the entry-level Aspire, or are you guessing that it works properly?  

[orb85750]

bloodline wrote:
@amigadave

I find it hard to take anything personal on something as impersonal as an Internet forum!

I sound repetitive because people don't seem to understand what I am saying!

Progress would be an Amiga platform that is twice as powerful as that £199 PC but at the same price or cheaper! At the moment we are playing catch up... And catch up that is one 8th the performance at three times the price!

We will only ever play catch up now... We can't compete with the mega-budgets... :-)

This thread is full of semantics problems.  I think bloodline is speaking of "Progress" (with a capital P), while many of us were referring to the progress on the Amiga platform specifically, which for obvious reasons has been much slower over the past 15 years than PC or mac progress.

[save2600]

This thread is full of semantics problems.  I think bloodline is speaking of "Progress" (with a capital P), while many of us were referring to the progress on the Amiga platform specifically, which for obvious reasons has been much slower over the past 15 years than PC or mac progress.

...and with that I say I'm sorely disappointed in the WinDoze platform. Seems to me more has been done in 15 years with AmigaOS than has WinBlows. How many times are they going to re-invent the wheel before they finally have something worth a $hit? It was an ugly and bloated OS since day one and it's an ugly, inefficient OS now. Despite the "advances" processor manufacturers have made. Exponentially, nothing has changed except it's now trying to mock the look and feel of MacOS.

[EvilGuy]

save2600 wrote:
NOTHING is dead or "obsolete" if you still use and enjoy it.

Doesn't matter if it's a computer, an auto, feelings for either, MUSIC (especially), yada, yada, yada.

Long live necrophilia!  :-o

[save2600]

EvilGuy - that *WAS* evil!   lol  

Seriously... what is it with people thinking old material things are somehow "useless" or "undesirable"? You ever wonder how civilisations could disappear without a trace? Our human ancestry is replete with dozens of examples. They must have shared the same attitude as our short-sighted (and "current") breatheran   :lol:

[Karlos]

save2600 wrote:
...and with that I say I'm sorely disappointed in the WinDoze platform. Seems to me more has been done in 15 years with AmigaOS than has WinBlows. How many times are they going to re-invent the wheel before they finally have something worth a $hit? It was an ugly and bloated OS since day one and it's an ugly, inefficient OS now. Despite the "advances" processor manufacturers have made. Exponentially, nothing has changed except it's now trying to mock the look and feel of MacOS.

It does provide DirectX, which allows me to play Fallout 3, Crysis et. al.

I only have Vista installed on this dual boot machine for that purpose :-)

[Karlos]

Karlos wrote:
Q: Which word, in your opinion, best describes AMIGA today?

A: Pancakes!

So, nobody remembers that? There was a time when every poll had a pancakes option.

I feel old now :-(

[bloodline]

Karlos wrote:

Karlos wrote:
Q: Which word, in your opinion, best describes AMIGA today?

A: Pancakes!

So, nobody remembers that? There was a time when every poll had a pancakes option.

I feel old now :-(

Are you sure? I don't remember that? Hmmm....

[persia]

It does work, I can't say it's exactly snappy and it won't replace my dual Quad core Mac Pro, but it does work.  A 2nd GB would probably help a lot, it depends what you are expecting, the Aspire is never going to be a video powerhouse but it's great to have if you're not at home and need to do an edit or two.

OS X makes far better use of Intel processors than Microsoft does, and scales far better, funny to say since Apple's been on Intel for three years and Microsoft has been there for almost ten times longer, but it's true.

orb85750 wrote:

orb85750 wrote:

persia wrote:
Yep, the Aspire runs leopard like a champ and Final Cut Express runs fine on it.  

You're running Final Cut on an Aspire *ONE*? (re: original question)  What type of pro hacking was required to get Leopard up and running on it?  Easy enough?  Total cost of system with above software and any required hardware upgrades?

Persia, can you show us Final Cut on the entry-level Aspire, or are you guessing that it works properly?  

[Karlos]

It isn't Apple that scales well onto Intel, it's BSD...