Big box of 47 Amiga chips on uk ebay start off price £5.00

[amigamad]

The following chips are in here:
4 X Motorola MC68000P8 CPU
2 X Motorola MC68020RC15B CPU
1 X Motorola MC68020RC16B CPU
2 X Motorola MC68881RC16A FPU
3 X KS 2.04 (A3000?) ROM1 ROM
3 X KS 2.04 (A3000?) ROM0 ROM
8 X CSG/MOS 8520 CIA
1 X WD33C93-A SCSI Controller
3 X 315093-02 KS 1.3 A500/2k/CDTV
2 X 390979-01 KS 2.04 A500+/2k
4 X 252127-02 Paula 8364 A500/2k/3k
4 X 5719 Gary A500/2k/3k/CDTV
2 X 8373R4PD ECS Denise A500/2k/CDTV
2 X 8362 Denise A500/2k
1 X 390539-07 Rev 7 Super buster A3k
1 X 390563-01 Super DMAC
1 X Unknown CBM ROM 390388-01
1 X Unknown CBM ROM 390389-01
2 X Oki M6242B RTC
As mentioned above, This was brought as part of over two large vanloads of bankrupt stock, these were held on-to to keep my machines going, now they are being moved on this collection can go too. As far as I know these all work. Thes descriptions are as accurate as I can get them there may be mistakes! All is packaged in an anti-static box and arranged so every chip is in foam (I sorted it out after the pic was taken) This is a sizeable chunk of Amiga history in this box. Add to this one item (390563-01) looks older than the rest and doesnt apear on chip lists although its older -02 part brother does, its quite possible this a beta chip or evaluation part.

http://www.evilgoat.co.uk/ebay/boxochips.jpg

(image removed by mikeymike ~ think of the poor modem users!)

clik me for link

[DoomMaster]

That is NOT anti-static foam that those ICs are in.  You probably have damaged all of them.  I saw those on eBay and decided not to bid on them because they are not pressed into black anti-static foam and placed inside a sealed silver anti-static bag.  Those chips are easily damaged by static electricity that you can not see or feel.  My advice to the people looking at those ICs, DO NOT BUY THEM !!!!     :-o

[N7VQM]

DoomMaster wrote:
That is NOT anti-static foam that those ICs are in.  

Actually, that could be anti-static foam.  It looks exactly like the anti-static foam that was used by the contract electronics manufacturer I worked for last year.  The foam we used was a 3M product.  BTW, I *KNOW* the stuff we used was anti-stat for two reasons:
1) 3M said so
2) UL wouldn't have allowed the company to keep its ISO9001 cert if the stuff wasn't anti-stat.

The lack of a desicant is abit troublesome.  I'd wager that the pins on those IC's have oxidized enough to prevent solid electrical contact.  But concidering that these buggers have been around for a few years, I doubt it matters much.

Too bad the auction in the UK.  I'd bid on it if it were on my side of the pond.

[DoomMaster]

To N7VQM:

I saw them on the USA eBay.  That foam is NOT anti-static.  Anti-static FOAM is BLACK.     :-o

[N7VQM]

Not all anti-stat foam is black.  Some is pink, some is black, some is yellow, some is even white.  It depends on who made it.  The colors I mention are just the ones I've seen.  It's by no means an exhaustive list.  Anti-static products are not limited to bags and that black foam junk.  All that black (which also doesn't have to be black) stuff really does is hold parts in one place.  It's quite useless beyond that.  Have you ever seen anti-static bubble wrap?  I think it has a better popping sound than 'regular' bubble wrap. :-D

To be honest, unless those parts were handled only at static-safe workstations by properly gounded people and transported only in static-sheilded containters, the possibility exists that they have been damaged.  They could be damaged by static EVEN IF they WERE properly handled.  It can happen just walking across a properly-outfitted factory floor, following all the rules.  Such is life.

Now, re-read my first reply, especially the part about ISO9001.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Hummm...  But even if 50% of those chips were damaged (and I doubt they are), wouldn't £5.00 be a good price to pay for all that? :-o

[DoomMaster]

To Oldsmobile_Mike:

I think that they are ALL damaged and no, the price is not worth it on static damaged ICs.  People must learn to take the proper precautions when handling static sensitive electronic components.  The number one cause of IC failure is static damage.  There are 2 kinds of static damage done to ICs- immediate and gradual failure.  Immediate static damage happens right away.  Gradual static damage usually takes about 3 mounths, this is the reason for the typical 90-day warranty.  The static electricity that a person sees and feels when touching a door knob after walking on carpet is between 3,000 to 10,000 static volts.  The amount of static electricity that it takes to damage todays modern ICs is less then a person can see or feel.  Many electronic components can be damaged by just 25 static volts.  You do not even have to actually touch an IC or Board to zap it, they can be zapped from up to 3 feet away.  So it is very important to always plug ICs into black anti-static foam and place them inside a sealed silver anti-static bag.  Boards should also be kept in a sealed silver or black anti-static bag.  White and yellow foam generate up to 10,000 static volts, so yes, these ICs are zapped and I personally would not trust them.     :-o

[fragment]

DoomMaster wrote:
That foam is NOT anti-static.  Anti-static FOAM is BLACK.     :-o

I remember my AMD Athlon was packed in a sexy pink foam  :-)

[AmigaHeretic]

Buy ANTI-STATIC FOAM in a wide variety of colors here folks.  Including Sexy Pink!!

They claim it's Anit-Static, but clearly it's not possible being that it's not Dyed blak.

--Edit:  
They also claim it's "[color=CC0000]ISO 9001-2000 CERTIFIED[/color]".  I wonder if that means anything?

[AmigaHeretic]

Of course maybe you meant something more along the lines of [color=990000]Lead Insertion Grade Conductive Foam[/color]??

[AmigaHeretic]

Sorry, but I couldn't resist one more:

Chip Boxes -- Available at http://www.corstat.co.uk/Products/enlargements/chip_boxes_elg.htm

Isn't it cute?  Pink and Black right next to each other

[DonnyEMU]

Wonders never cease are these millitary grade?  ;-)

[Framiga]

@ amigaguy

for ICs is necessary "Conductive Foam".

Antistatic foam (used for packaging), is not enough.

Ciao

-edit- available in pink/white also.

[mikeymike]

@ DoomMaster

There's no need to be so sensationalistic about your announcements.  Anti-static bags and foam come in all sorts of colours, colour does not affect static conductivity....

[Calen]

 :-o