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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2003, 05:08:23 AM »
My favourite would have to be the A1200 because thats the first computer i owned.

I most pointless of all computers must have been the A600. I remember seeing it for the first time in a mag, either just before or after it was released, and there and then i couldnt imagine the stupidity of commador. I knew commador wasnt in the best of positions, but after seeing this, i knew commador was going down the drain.

Looking back, i dont think the CD32 was that hot either, its was good fun but it didnt seem as if it was a huge success. IT wasnt pusing any boundrys, it had the same chipset as the A1200 and A4000... (at least i think the A4000 chipset was the same)...

infact, anything after the A4000 wasnt that inovative. the A1200 was a home users A4000. The CD32 was the gamers, just because it didnt have a keyboard and a monitor. Commador should have been a lot more inovative. Lets face it, commador was prolly never inovative, they bought the Amiga and everyonen who were developing it. If they hadnt have done that, they would have died long before it. Because, they're not inovative!

They could have atleast stolen a few ideas, like MS :) it keeps them afloat! :)
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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2003, 06:05:10 AM »
My list from Best to Worst

A3000+
A4000T
A4000
CD32
A1200
A3000T
A3000
A1000
A500+
A500
A2000
CDTV
A600

Scary thing is I am pretty sure that between Wayne, Lee & I we owned at least one of each of those at one time.  
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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2003, 06:11:19 AM »
I was only mentioning the released Amiga's
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A3000+
????
(I'll respect most of your orderings...)
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A500+
A500
A2000
I'm confused by that one, the A500's better than A2000? No way!


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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2003, 08:26:32 AM »
Best design award : 3000
Best performance award: 4000
Special prize for innovation : 1000
Best price/performance ratio award: 1200
Raspberry award : 600

and...

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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2003, 08:32:31 AM »
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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2003, 08:37:26 AM »
DoomMaster:
AFAIK, Commodore changed the keys of the keyboards as they pleased. I've seen A500s both with printed characters and with "decals".  I mus say though, I liked the CDTV keyboard the most; The CDTV was undoubtly the sexiest of ALL amigas.
I don't understand why people keep bashing the A600. Sure it wasn't the best machine ever mande, but mine allways worked flawlessly (until I gutted it to find out what it looked like inside :-D).
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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2003, 08:45:48 AM »
The best was the Professional Amiga 2500 of course.

 Yep, it totaly blew the A2000 out of the water, I mean especialy with it's nicer name plate and all. :-D

My Uncle still uses his Amiga 2500 in his video production business.  Of course he mostly use "Professional Mac's" for non-linear editing of course.  But that 68020 sure did kick some ass back then.

Real profesionals would never choose the A2000 over the true Flagship Amiga 2500.    :-P
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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2003, 09:16:30 AM »
@amigaguy

I'll take my 2K with the bliz '060 thanks although I do have a 2630 board gathering dust - would that count?  ;-)

Best and worst is all relative to the use it'll be put to.

To save space and time I'll restrict myself to the major model lines and only released product.

A1000 - the original - 'nuff said.
A500 - cheap 'n' cheerful - primarily responsible for the Amigas' sucess in the home market.
A2000 (and variants) - built like a brick outhouse - video toaster primarily responsible for maket penetration into video editing shops.
A3000 (and variants) - much more than a 2000 with a good feature set but somehow not quite enough at the time - a flawed hero.
A4000 (and variants) - logical successor to the 2000 - for some bizarre reason some of the good features in the 3000 were removed - another flawed hero.
A600 - tiny tiny box - very cute but why?
A1200 - logical sucessor to the A500 - more power, better chipset - huge hardware hacking potential.
CDTV - a great idea which the world was not ready for.
PPC Amigas - to be honest, I dunno - the question I keep asking myself is "where's the killer app?".
 

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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2003, 09:23:39 AM »
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by Tigger on 2003/9/16 7:05:10

My list from Best to Worst

A3000+
A4000T
A4000
CD32
A1200
A3000T
A3000
A1000
A500+
A500
A2000
CDTV
A600

Scary thing is I am pretty sure that between Wayne, Lee & I we owned at least one of each of those at one time.
-Tig


an A1200 is better than an A3000T? Are you joking?

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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2003, 09:28:39 AM »
Technically the 3000+ was the best.

The 4000T would be my personal favorite,
followed by a toss-up between the 1200 and  
3000. The 3000 had SCSI and socketed
chips, yet AGA is a must for watching
demos:P

The 500 was pretty cool, it could do everything
the 2000 could, cost less and probably had
better build quality.
 
 

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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2003, 09:32:47 AM »
Overall, I think the best would be the 3000. It's not as ugly as the 2000, but isn't full of SMT junk like the 4000.

The CDTV gets the style award.. I've always liked the look of that machine.
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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2003, 11:16:03 AM »
Imo the A1200 was the biggest disappointment.
It was severely under powered for a new generation Amiga at the time.
Things it did lack was:
- a New blitter (It was still the same slow 16 bit thing !!!)
- new sound chips (same old 2x2 channel 8 bit stuff)
- 24 bit color mode instead of extending ham would have been nice
- 8 bit byte-per-pixel mode or even the converter chip from the CD32
- full vga compatibility or at least such a mode
- HD floppy controller
- buffered serial port
- space for a 3.5" IDE HD would have been a lot more appropriate
- 512 kb of fast ram/faster chip ram would have helped it tremendously
  since chip ram didn't have enough bandwidth.
- 030/25 or whatever they put in the atari falcon.

After considering the extra cost for a 2.5" inch hard drive a new serial
card and a special Amiga capable monitor they could have charged more
and it still would have been cheaper.
 

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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2003, 11:50:21 AM »
yeah if AGA had at least a hacked on 24bit + chunky mode all could be very differet
oh and a 25mhz '030 min (min) and a sim slot...

at the very least a true Zorro3 would have been a good sent for the future!!! :-?
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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2003, 12:52:18 PM »
Bit OT, but...

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leirbag28 wrote:
insert a Video CD, plays by hitting the play button,


The CD32 plays standard VCDs?

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-D- wrote:
Technically the 3000+ was the best.


What's the plus for? I know on the A500 the plus meant the addition of ECS and a fatter Agnus, but the A3000 had these as standard, didn't they? Was this the A3000 AGA upgrade I've heard about?
 

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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2003, 01:54:58 PM »
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Technically the 3000+ was the best.

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What's the plus for? I know on the A500 the plus meant the addition of ECS and a fatter Agnus, but the A3000 had these as standard, didn't they? Was this the A3000 AGA upgrade I've heard about?


Wasn't the 3000+ meant to be an Amiga 3000 with an AGA chipset? That would be awesome! :-) Do any of them actually exist?

Technically the 4000/T, 3000/T and 1200T were the better ones. The 4000 and 3000 being more powerful and the 1200 being an upgraders dream and cheap and popular. But i plucked for the 1000 as the best Amiga model cos it was the first that started it and no-one had ever seen anything like it. No other Amiga models would have been possible without this machine.

Thanks for the reply people! Keep 'em coming! :-)
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Re: What was the Best and "not so good" Amiga Models?
« Reply #44 from previous page: September 16, 2003, 01:59:11 PM »
@leirbag28:
"The 2000 is the Ugliest Amiga ever made and is a huge Behemoth"
well, I agree, the case design is crap. You can put less HDs and drives in it than in a desktop 4000... with an A4000 you can put 2 HDs next to the PSU, 2 disk drives and a cdrom without many problems... (if the cdrom is not very long of course...
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