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is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« on: April 13, 2009, 12:05:55 AM »
is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
 

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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2009, 12:22:06 AM »
l somehow doubt it but if the software runs on it
like miami i guess it whould be much easier to upgrade to wb 3.1 though :-?
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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2009, 12:27:59 AM »
Well, I know newer releases can connect to the internet. But that is not the aim of my quest.
By the way.. c64 can connect through tcp/ip so I think wb1.3 should be at least capable..
 

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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2009, 03:26:10 AM »
Try to install an older Version of AmiTCP.
 

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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2009, 05:02:16 AM »
You'll need to qualify what you mean by "capable." uIP can run on an Amiga 500, but no one's implemented bsdsocket.library (the de facto standard on the Amiga) on top of it.

The other stacks (AS225, I-Net 225, AmiTCP, et al) require Kickstart 2.x or higher.
 

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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2009, 09:41:28 AM »
You mean the fabled amiga isn't going to open an ftp under wb 1.3 ? Let's say I want to install an HD on a A2000 and connect it to an ftp under wb1.3 to download software.. no cigar ?
 

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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2009, 10:05:38 AM »
With WB 1.3 it's going to be a challenge to run a tcp/ip stack, upgrading the A2000 rom's to 3.1 and then installing genesis/amitcp/miami is most definitive the easy way.

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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2009, 10:16:49 AM »
I'm not looking for an easy way. the easiest way is to use my pc...
 

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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2009, 11:24:47 AM »
I guess the answer is no then. I don't know of any TCP using software that doesn't require BSDSocket.library, so without that you effectively can't run an FTP server or anything else. In theory it should be quite possible, but will involve coding a BSDSocket-compatible TCP stack, or else your writing your own FTP server with integrated TCP/IP.
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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2009, 11:36:27 PM »
I don't want to run an ftp server. I'm on the client side.
 

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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2009, 11:45:56 PM »
what about parnet and sernet software l know these are slow but they work or even what l do use null modem cable between your amiga and your pc . dont use hyperterminal its nasty
there better dos ones
or else try track down simeses system that way u can have you amiga wb on your pc screen l ran it years ago was amazing still is l feel you can run this over tcp serial even scsi
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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2009, 04:33:16 PM »
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You mean the fabled amiga isn't going to open an ftp under wb 1.3 ? Let's say I want to install an HD on a A2000 and connect it to an ftp under wb1.3 to download software.. no cigar ?


I have softkicked my 1.3 A2000 (1M chip, 8M fast, Hydra Amiganet 1.1 card) to 3.1 and run AmiTCP with it :) Soo.. it can be done without upgrading the actual hardware, but not under 1.3.
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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2009, 05:09:10 PM »
Actually, there is a TCP/IP solution for Workbench 1.3, but it's very limited in its flexibility. It's called AmigaNOS, an Amiga port of the Network Operating System program, originally released on the PC. It's a  standalone environment, which incorporates SLIP/PPP, the TCP/IP stack and several applications that you can use from within the AmigaNOS environment like FTP, which is what you're interested in. It doesn't have an API, at least none that I know of, so there's no way to use software that expects a bsdsocket interface (even if you would be able to run it at all under Kickstart 1.3). You're stuck with the features/programs the program has to offer.

I've unsuccesfully tried to get the program running in the past, just for the heck of it, but couldn't get the PPP connection working. To make things more complicated, there are several versions of AmigaNOS floating around, some of which support SLIP but not PPP. There's a version of AmigaNOS on ye ol' Aminet, IIRC. Good luck if you do give it a try and let us know if you have any luck getting it to work!

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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2009, 06:29:52 PM »
I believe that the AS225r1 TCP/IP package (Might have come with the C= 2065 card) should be AmigaDOS 1.3 compatible.  Good luck finding it, though.  (If anyone has a copy, please let me know!)

Also, I think one of the very early AmiTCP versions ran on 1.3, as well.  

Anyhow, you're in for a real adventure...  These tools were not common, and networking wasn't very standardized back in the days of AmigaDOS 1.3.  Sounds like fun!  ;-)  
 

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Re: is wb1.3 tcp/ip capable? how?
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2009, 07:15:48 PM »
I might be mistaken, but doesn't TermiteTCP work on 1.3?