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A590 U5 Ram Controler
« on: March 31, 2009, 08:22:42 AM »
one of mine A590's U5 ram controler PAL is missing, I want to program this chip, I tried to clone by using my GAL programmer but I cant get firmware, is there anyone has this firmware


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Re: A590 U5 Ram Controler
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2009, 10:40:40 AM »
Unfortunately the original PAL seems to be protected from read... You should buy another one, the "FIFI" chip found on the A2091 should do the same job, since I saw photos of newer A590s fitted with this chip: probably they first used PALs then made their custom IC with same function.
 

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Re: A590 U5 Ram Controler
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2009, 07:12:37 PM »
U5 is always a 16L8A PAL. It's the RAM controller, so no memory expansion without it. Even getting the chip might get difficult, but you'll also need the code.
 

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Re: A590 U5 Ram Controler
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2009, 02:18:13 AM »
without U5 A500 does not boot, is there any way to unlock PALs security
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Re: A590 U5 Ram Controler
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2009, 09:37:34 PM »
Hmm - that's a shame. I don't think there's any way to fool read-protected PALs, otherwise the copy protection would be pretty useless...

At first glance I'd have thought that the A590 should start - maybe the RAM is accessed even in amnesia mode and the bus hangs due to missing ack. You can try bridging _RAMSEL to _DTACK (pin 5 to 18); not exactly nice, but it might bring at least SCSI to life.
(I always use a small resistor ~100 Ohms for bridging so nothing can smoke.)
 

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Re: A590 U5 Ram Controler
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2009, 01:41:45 AM »
Isn't PAL chips just a large truthtable booleanly speaking?
Such that it should be possible to scan all combinations and work out the right formula with your mind & some time?
 

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Re: A590 U5 Ram Controler
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2009, 09:03:30 PM »
Well, somewhat. Does this help?
 

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Re: A590 U5 Ram Controler
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2009, 12:44:10 AM »
Feed the truth table into a file. Then setup such that you can  try an algorithm and verify it or get what's missing. Then it's all trial & clever thinking ;)
 

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Re: A590 U5 Ram Controler
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2009, 03:15:17 AM »
 I think the only solution is buying an already dead A2091 (not exactly a hard job) and sack the U5 from it, praying the chip is good.

 A "WTB" post on Amibay or here on the bazaar/trade section can bring the thing.
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