Any chance for mobile.amiga.org??

[DiskDoctor]

Hello.

I  am now accessing site via mobile.  It's all messed up and heavyweght.

Is there ANY chance for getting mobile? It would be just enough to support 176, 240 and 320 resolution.  Since data cost is next to nothing now, many people would be able to access it anywhere.  Also, doesn't seem to be a programming- intensive task.

I wish I could donate this.  How about some distinct fund?

[bloodline]

DiskDoctor wrote:
Hello.

I  am now accessing site via mobile.  It's all messed up and heavyweght.

Is there ANY chance for getting mobile? It would be just enough to support 176, 240 and 320 resolution.  Since data cost is next to nothing now, many people would be able to access it anywhere.  Also, doesn't seem to be a programming- intensive task.

I wish I could donate this.  How about some distinct fund?

A.org works fine on the iPhone! What mobile device are you using, maybe there is a webkit browser available for it?

[Pyromania]

Hopefully it's not Windows Mobile LOL! amiga.org displays fine here on iPhone.

[DiskDoctor]

bloodline wrote:
A.org works fine on the iPhone! What mobile device are you using, maybe there is a webkit browser available for it?

I was using HTC S710, but mate, iPhone is the WORST example of a mobile phone, just because it's great and hard to be beaten in many areas.  But it's just a few per cent of mobile share.

I tried the site again on Nokia E65 with WebKit.  The site looks fine but still... you've got a horizontal scroll which is against the mobile way.  Most mobile phones work under 176 or 240, eventually 320 width resolution.  It is just a matter of that width formating.

Try e.g. this link with your  iPhone and you'll see what I mean.

[DiskDoctor]

Pyromania wrote:
Hopefully it's not Windows Mobile LOL! amiga.org displays fine here on iPhone.

But what if??

BTW I just checked that iPhone is 320 x 480, width is just the same as my HTC while horizontal.  And you guys still call it "fine"?  Oh, maybe with this analog zoom it's faster to browse.  But why zooming?

EDIT* Well, if browsing horizontally with iPhone... cannot be better! I should get myself an iPhone :-(

As much as I'd like to accommodate such a request, the reality is that the time for development on this site is nearing an end.  

That doesn't mean we're closing or anything's changing, simply that -- due to the people who demand AO be made available to Amiga browsers -- we're at a standstill wherein development is concerned.

We can't move forward with this site any further without getting rid of all the legacy data, and Xoops itself (the platform in use) isn't what it used to be, support-wise.

Wayne

[AmigaHeretic]

I have an HTC 8525 (Win Mobile 6) and I just go to www.amiga.org and it looks fine in IE.  No horizontal scrolling or anything like that.  Never even tried mobile.amiga.org.

If your looking for a good browser for WinMobile, check out Skyfire.  It lets you pretty much view every website just like it looks on a PC.  

Youtube.com is 100% etc etc, displays all flash videos & sites I've tride.  

[DiskDoctor]

@ Wayne

Thanks for a prompt reply :-)

I meant Xoops plugin of course.  If there is one.

@ AmigaHeretic

Well, you've got a 320 VGA display - 99% mobile users cannot claim that.  Thanks for the advice anyway, I used to use Opera Mini on my Nokia that was rendering everything fine.  I must try this again on this HTC, then I'll try yours.

But I meant something universal, for native browsers.  There are often mCMS plugins, maybe Xoops has one, even beta?

[adolescent]

I use Iris on my WinMo phone.  A.org looks pretty good in landscape mode.  It's WebKit based, but passes Acid 3 so it's compliant than Safari or Opera.  

[bloodline]

adolescent wrote:
I use Iris on my WinMo phone.  A.org looks pretty good in landscape mode.  It's WebKit based, but passes Acid 3 so it's compliant than Safari or Opera.  

Safari is Webkit... and scores a very good 74/100 Acid3 on my iPhone...

[DiskDoctor]

I don't know, guys...

I tried this Opera Mini 4.2...  The site loads in 60 secs and is zoomed out.  Same in SkyFire - faster though.  That's the result of using proxy that translates the whole content.  Opera's proxy is {bl**p} to me in last 2-3 years; I stopped using it.

The third one mentioned - Iris, seems better, but doesn't differ from IE actually.  The site still takes around 100KB (which is wasting the memory and CPU), also one needs to navigate horizontally.  Which as stated above, has nothing to do with mobile surfing, it's rather surfing www via mobile browser.  Not the same.

This is sad.

[adolescent]

bloodline wrote:

adolescent wrote:
I use Iris on my WinMo phone.  A.org looks pretty good in landscape mode.  It's WebKit based, but passes Acid 3 so it's compliant than Safari or Opera.  

Safari is Webkit... and scores a very good 74/100 Acid3 on my iPhone...

Iris scores 100/100.  Sorry, missed the "more" in the sentence.  "It's WebKit based, but passes Acid 3 so it's more compliant than Safari or Opera.

[adolescent]

@diskdoctor

Winout running through a proxy like Opera Mini does, or Opera Mobile in "Mobile" mode (or whatever it's called), then you probably won't be able to view things without scaling.  That said, the scaling in both Opera and Iris are pretty good.  But, like I said, I use it landscape most of the time.

[AmigaHeretic]

DiskDoctor wrote:
@ AmigaHeretic

Well, you've got a 320 VGA display - 99% mobile users cannot claim that.  Thanks for the advice anyway, I used to use Opera Mini on my Nokia that was rendering everything fine.  I must try this again on this HTC, then I'll try yours.

But I meant something universal, for native browsers.  There are often mCMS plugins, maybe Xoops has one, even beta?

I thought we had the same screen QVGA 320x240?  The HTC S710 has WinMobile 6 on in right?  I find it strange that Amiga.org is messed up on your IE and not mine.  You're saying that you get horizontal scrolling right?  

[DiskDoctor]

@ adolescent

That's my point. You have to render for mobile, that is, match UA with width and output xhtml, that's all.

The question is- where to render. Wheather by server itself, via proxy or at the device. The only sensible solution would be server's, this is why I posted this as a possible  enhancement of the site.

HTML5 will do the job; all mobile browsers would eventually declare their profile, thus being served properly.  So HTML5- compliant webservers will have automatically become CMS systems :-) But I've been hearing of this revolutionaly html improvement for so long that I now consider this a hoax.

To conclude, you either use (basic) mCMS or all you get is partial experience. Altogether with mobile browsing being a partial experience itself, what you get is doubtful. Well except for iPhone owners, right.