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Amigas new facelift (minor hardware probs)
« on: March 09, 2009, 05:30:41 PM »
Hello all. I've finally gotten enough money together to upgrade my 1200 into a tower case, due to a rather large tax return. I've gotten a tower case, subway, mediator, etc... from Amigakit.com, and it arrived a few days ago, and I've finally had the time to assemble it. Amigakit again has excellent customer service, and went out of their way to inform me of a mistake I made when I placed the order (wrong PSU adapter), and I'm quite pleased with them. :D Anyway, I've also ordered a pair of wireless sega controllers off E-Bay, and they arrived as promised as well. (when I get the guys merchant info, time permitting, I'm planning on dropping a good review for him) However, the wireless controllers don't work. Regular ones do, however, and I think I've tracked the problem down. according to pinouts.ru, Amigas have a +5 VDC on pin 7, while Sega has +5VDC on pin 5. Thinking the easies fix would be to wire a dbn9 serial cable with pins 5 and 7 swapped out, but wanted to get a more experienced take on this before I try it and end up blowing something to hell. This a good idea?
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Re: Amigas new facelift (minor hardware probs)
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2009, 05:55:21 PM »
Making an adapter that re-routes the power sounds like your best solution.

About the A1200 tower project... so you assembled it and all works fine? What cards are you using with the Mediator? What kind of processor are you using? And lastly, a pic or two of your system would be cool  :-)
 

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Re: Amigas new facelift (minor hardware probs)
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2009, 06:06:19 PM »
Post some pictures of your setup please.
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Re: Amigas new facelift (minor hardware probs)
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2009, 04:15:21 AM »
@all. Thanks for the assist again! Will get busy with a soldering iron, multimeter, and an old serial cable this week. Will update on how that turns out. As for the tower conversion (Never one to pass an opportunity to brag about my miggy  :-D ), She is at heart, of course, an A1200 mobo. (stripping the RF shielding was a pain in neck) Before my tax return burned a hole in my pocket, she had a Blizzard 1260+scsi daughterboard (fully populated, 192MB RAM total) with a PCMCIA NIC, 2.1GB drive, mr. mysza ps/2 adapter, connected to a ps/2 usb adapter, connected to a Fellowes wireless USB mouse (without mmb/ mousewheel support, for want of the drivers needed, mr. mysza was given to me by my brother), an alphadata joy/mouse switch, 2 sega gamepads (wired), and a custom built PSU that rates somewhere around 300 watts. (A bit overkill, if you ask me), and a custom built external scandoubler (16 bit, has some minor issues with the Amigas 32 bit output, with reduced colors and a minor prob on the green channel. Works great for games, though) After the spending spree, she's in an EZ Z4 Tower case, with a 250 watt psu, a dvd drive, a cd/rw burner, a zip drive, and (I believe) a HD floppy drive, as well as an IDE zip drive. The 2.1 GB drive is still in her, but I have a 40GB standing by for installation after I get the 2.1 backed up. I went for the Subway USB controller, giving me 4 USB ports on 2 PCI slat covers, though I did try to mount them on the 4 comm-port cutouts on the back of the case, but the mounting screws aren't spaced right for that. However, there was a spare wider slot available for the 1230 scsi port, which screws in nicely. It, of course, has the pc-1200 AT adapter, which I mistakenly thought was a ps/2 adapter. However, a simple adapter will be able to fit the wireless ps/2 keyboard I have. (Already tested on my Wifes XP machine, works OK there, but the caps/num/scroll lock keys don't work particularly well. not a biggie with the Amiga, though!  :-D ) Meanwhile, I have a cheesy looking ergonomic POS keyboard thats a pain to type one..... (If you need one for metacarple tunnel, they're the best, but if you don't they're annoying as hell) The Mediator (with 4 PCI slots) is fully populated with cards that I'm unsure of as far as compatability, more placeholders until I can find higher grade, newer cards. Slot one has a generic (and tested) SVGA card, slot 2 has a Soundblaster16 in it, slot3 has a 10/100mbps NIC, slot 4 has an IDE/SCSI controller (of all the stuff I don't think will work, that ones my biggest bet). I also have a 4x buffered IDE device, that I recently discovered is going to need longer cables (which I had to explain to my Computer Service Tech instructor when he caught me rummaging through his old cable bin. He thought this was funny as hell, but unfortunatly, didn't have IDE cabling any longer than what I have now). I've gotten everything put together, save for the side-panel (which is staying off until the 40 GB HDD is installed and configured), however the system is booting to the lovely Barney-purple screen with the Amiga logo and the "insert floppy" animation (The screensaver that sports this animation also freaked out my instructor when I installed it on my school computer). The 2.1 GB (laptop) HDD isn't even spinning up when I turn her on, but the system seems to be scanning the cd-rom drives for boot code on power-up, I'm thinking the cable to the drive is a bit loose, as there's alot of tension on the IDE ribbons due to their need for length. Originally, I was going to post the finished product pics. on my webshots account, but I can put the pics of the system "as is" up there, too. Oh, forgot to mention, I have the right-angle PCMCIA adapter, with the PCMCIA NIC in it for now (in case the PCI one in incompatible), however I plan on using it for a prism compatible wi-fi card, using one of the ps/2 mountings on the case for a custom-made external antenna. (I found a great book for how to do that, their website is here)
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Re: Amigas new facelift (minor hardware probs)
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2009, 05:37:22 AM »
OK, just snapped 3 pictures of the tower, and the original console as she was before the upgrade. The tower shots are rather immodest, however. More pictures as I get the thing functional and set nicely on her desk will follow, though. Awaiting the upload as I type. Going to grab a smoke while I'm at it. (DSL upstream speeds suck....) Finally uploaded Here
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Re: Amigas new facelift (minor hardware probs)
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2009, 11:11:41 PM »
Just finished @ school here, and while awaiting my wife to pick me up, I figured I'd do an update. After several days of using sunrise as a "time for bed" alarm, I've managed to get the HDD to boot, and the video card to run, at which point I've cranked the workbench resolution to 1152x900x24b, which is kinda slow. I'm not too worried about it, being familiar with both a super-72+fblit 800x600x8b screen, and its much faster than that. And the desktop real-estate helps organizing stuff, making things that much easier to use. The only problem is the fonts are designed to be readable with an 800x600 resolution, and I'll have to bump them up a bit. For homework, I use AmigaWriter, which adjust this automatically anyway. I also need to reconfigure Ibrowse with the larger font sizes (that are more in line with standard browsers, but I didn't use them because of the lower resolution), and increase the size on the buttons. My next step is to get the sound-card working right, just a case of plaing with the AHI drivers a bit. After that, I'm going to get the 10/100mbps nic working, but the one thats in there now doesn't like the mediator drivers. (I have a few more lying around) If I can kick up device drivers for the PCI IDE card, I'll do that too, but I'm not too worried about it. (I could swap that with another VGA card, for a 3 monitor setup  :-D ) After the Mediator stuff is done, I'll install the poseidan drivers for the USB ports, and test my USB equipment. (Thumbdrive, card-reader, Camera, and MP3 player. should all mount as a thumbdrive) Then, I need to swap the 2GB drive out to the 40GB I have, which will mean temprorarily installing a 4GB drive I have on the second IDE port, and copy everything over. Then swap the 2GB w/ 40GB, boot under the new drive, and copy it over again. After which, I'll connect the DVD rom, CD/RW drive, and Zip drives. Then I can put the side panel back on, and get her situated on her desk. Only other 2 minor issues are the wireless keyboard (pc/2, when I have AT) and the pair of wireless Sega connectors (the original purpose of this thread, just need to solder an adapter for this).
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Re: Amigas new facelift (minor hardware probs)
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2009, 12:27:01 AM »

Umm, may want to use your enter key occasionally...
 

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Re: Amigas new facelift (minor hardware probs)
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2009, 04:50:37 AM »
I have a 51yo friend that writes looooong e-mails to me that way. I usually copy and paste them into an editor and create my own random paragraphs. Makes it a lot easier to digest. This is after a discussion on how to write letters. Come to think of it, I have two friends here in town that in the subject heading: always use caps, writes their name and the date they sent it. LOL!  I just shake my head now and chalk it up to yet another "benefit" of living in the area.    :crazy:
 

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Re: Amigas new facelift (minor hardware probs)
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2009, 05:01:13 AM »
Thanks alot. Now I'm going to start using the "_" key instead of the spacebar!  :-D
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Re: Amigas new facelift (minor hardware probs)
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2009, 06:59:16 PM »
Been awhile since I've updated this, so I figured I'd do so when I had a few moments. I promise to use the Enter key this time, too.  :-)

Got everything slapped together and working, hardware wise, with a couple exceptions.

The 10/100 mbps ethernet isn't working with either fastethernet.device or mediatornet.device. Its not really compatible with the mediator drivers, though I have a right=angle PCMCI adapter with my old 3com card until I find one that works.

Ultra-33 PCI Ide card doesn't work, no drivers. wasn't really holding my breath on this one.

Subway USB stack not working, thinking I'm just missing something fundamental. I had problems earlier with Picasso96 installing, because I had to use my wifes XP machine along with a samba share to do so, messing up the protection bits. I've double checked this with the subway drivers, too. but to no avail. Might just go with a pci card for usb.

Floppy drive shows "bad" icon, doesn't matter if there's a floppy in there or not. I set df0: to not show on the workbench for now.

IDE adapter not fully installed, for want of a longer IDE cable to hook things up. I have the cables I need now, so not a real problem.

2.1GB drive is still in there, I have a 40GB. Prob is, they're both laptop drives, and I only have 1 connector for this. I'll have to do alot of drive-swapping to get the filesystem(s) transferred. (2 SFS partitions, 2 FAT32 partitions, 1 MFS mac partition. I need a way to save and restore non-Amiga RDB's to restore the win95 and win3.11 partitions, the macintosh one I could care less about, as I have a shapeshifter-hardfile backup on the fileserver)

Wireless keyboard not working. This is interesting, I have a pc-key 1200 Amiga-AT adapter, and the only AT keyboard I had was an old ergonomic annoying, bulky, ugly, dirty, piece of $%#!&!!!!. A friend of mine @ Rivcom Computers had a spare ps/2 to at adapter (and the longer IDE cable I needed), and let me use them. However, when the Amiga powers on, the pc-key seems to wait for some kind of input from the keyboard to activate. (I Usually hit the CTRL button, then the led's on the keyboard flash) With the wireless keyboard, it seems to want to wait for the input from the computer before its able to send a keypress, which is an obnoxious cycle. There should be some easy way of breaking this, even if I need to solder some kind of "pulse" component into the ps/2 line. I'll see what google has to offer for this. (Unless someone here has a suggestion?)

The dual-monitor thing. I kinda like having 2 monitors (1 for AGA, 1 for RTG), but would like to have the ability to maintain the AGA display while working on the RTG display. If you notice my Screenshots, Ibrowse takes up most of the screen, which is fine, but I would like to move WookieChat and Jabberwocky over to the AGA screen, which would help immensely in clearing up real-estate on the RTG display. The resolution is already maxed out for the card, and I have to squint on a 20" monitor to read some of the fontsizes I haven't updated yet, so I don't really want to increase the res. at all. This is probably a config thing I'm missing, so I'll do some digging on it. I'm using the Matrix screensaver, which can blank RTG and AGA simultaneously (and looks awesome in a dark room when it does it  :-D ), but any other program I run switches AGA to a blank grey screen when I L-Amiga M out of it. (Or L-windows M in my case. which reminds me, has anyone dealt with These guys?



There's some software probs, too. mostly with various patches.

1) Reqattack doesn't like 24-bit textures. Apparently, I need to manually convert them into 24-bit .ra files (The tool to do so is included in the archive), simply putting the taskname in the v 43 datatype prefs causes ugly results.

2) MagicASL locks up. I REALLY like this patch, I think the standard ASL requesters are a bit bland for the system I'm running.

3) PC-Task & Shapeshifter lock. I've set the picasso96 prefs to allow direct access, which should be working, but it isn't... I'll have to look closer at whats going on.

4) Corrupted mouse pointer. When the mouse pointer switches images (Normal to busy, normal to "select link" hand in Ibrowse, NOrmal to Text editing pointer for some MUI classes)the sprite becomes a random, corrupted rectangle on occasion. I could fix this by using soft sprites, but I have a 68060, and would rather save cpu cycles for other things as much as possible.

5) Ugly mouse pointer. According to some documentation I read online somewhere, the SVGA card only supports 3-color sprites, and one of those colors is a transparent one that does some wierd (and ugly) stuff. The recommendation was either a 2 color pointer or use soft-sprites. Neither this or #4 is a really big deal to me right now, though.

Anyway, aside from those probs, its apparent my computer acting more sluggish than a windows machine being used by a nympho on a 20-hour porn browsing marathon was due to C2P and 24bto8b conversions from standard web-browsing. I had the foresight to pre-convert everything I otherwise used (Winamp skins, background/mui patterns, etc...) Ibrowse now works as quicker than firefox on my mother-in-laws winxp PIII, and almost as well as my wifes Athlon. Except for Javascript loaded pages, which I rather expected. However, even those load faster due to the lack of FBLIT and C2P conversions dragging the CPU down.

My MP3's play much nicer using AHI with a soundblaster, though they still hog the CPU a bit. Still tinkering with it to find a happy medium between performance and sound quality.

All my games (mostly whdload installs) work fine, they just go to the AGA monitor. I've noticed various background tasks (eg. limpidclock) still update on RTG while the game is playing, which is handy) However, I'm still toying with the idea of getting a VGA switchbox.
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 Subway USB+ endless list of gadgets :-D
My full specs