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AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« on: February 25, 2009, 10:34:53 PM »
I was recently speaking with a whole bunch of Amigans or Morphosians at some Amiga party.

I was told that Hyperion's policy might be to pursue Mac Mini port soon (or it is being done already).  However there was one crucial issue unclear to me.  Are there any legal obstacles in releasing proprietary OS to Mac Mini platform?  Note that it is discontinued since three years, I guess those all PPC Macs are not under support anymore either.

So if someone can point me into some brief legal statement forbidding any alien OSes on PPC macs, I would be grateful.  Unless there is one, I'd bet it is to be released, maybe earlier than MorphOS.  I know there's an issue with different firmware, but this request of mine is rather of a legal nature.

Just wanna know because if all this is legally illegal, no one will bother.

Was: Mac Mini PPC running MorphOS 2.4
Now: Amiga Forever 2010 with AmiKit and AmigaSYS
Not used: Icaros Desktop 1.2 (reason: no wifi)
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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2009, 10:42:57 PM »
There's tons of info on this - the port of MorphOS to MacMini that is. It's supposed to happen officially and people have already done it on an unofficial level. Sound and USB I think are not yet supported. Do some searching here on this site as well as the MorphOS forum.
 

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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2009, 11:19:12 PM »
@DiskDoctor

Of course not.

The only obstacle I can think of comes from the Amiga IP owner, but Hyperion seems free to do whatever they want with the OS now, so...
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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2009, 11:49:28 PM »
no
 

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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2009, 02:01:02 AM »
No legal barriers, only aesthetic ones.
 

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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2009, 02:06:33 AM »
@Piru

When you'll release the special QEMU build that's able to run MorphOS and Amiga OS 4.1?
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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2009, 05:20:55 PM »
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The only obstacle I can think of comes from the Amiga IP owner, but Hyperion seems free to do whatever they want with the OS now, so...


Exactly!  I did manage to launch this Moana CD on my Mac Mini, so it's almost done at that stage, the only mandatory issues to fix seem the internet and the sound.  Wifi and USB would be fine.

Great!

But on the other hand... ACube wouldn't like it done so it's a matter of an agreement between those parties.  If there was no matter of any formal sense, the project should take no more than 3-5 weeks...

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No legal barriers, only aesthetic ones.


You mean this about Mac people or Amiga people? :-)

EDIT*  One more issue to be a reason - after the release for Peg2, the sales just got increased must drop back for some time to launch any cheaper platform...  So Peg2 people: make up your mind quickly so that Mac people can enjoy it soon, too :-)
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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2009, 05:22:27 PM »
@hbarcellos

As I've stated before, it's not my project.
 

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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2009, 09:20:06 PM »
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No legal barriers, only aesthetic ones.


You mean this about Mac people or Amiga people? :-)

EDIT*  One more issue to be a reason - after the release for Peg2, the sales just got increased must drop back for some time to launch any cheaper platform...  So Peg2 people: make up your mind quickly so that Mac people can enjoy it soon, too :-) [/quote]

I was referring to the pathetic situation of needing to make use of Mac hardware rather than having real Amiga hardware.  Thanks Amiga Inc.!  How's Cool Tools 3 coming along?
 

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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2009, 09:54:48 PM »
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Exactly!  I did manage to launch this Moana CD on my Mac Mini, so it's almost done at that stage, the only mandatory issues to fix seem the internet and the sound.  Wifi and USB would be fine.


But works on a macmini G4 with 32mb vram?
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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2009, 03:03:41 AM »
So just put it on TPB then...


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@hbarcellos

As I've stated before, it's not my project.
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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2009, 05:09:59 AM »
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But works on a macmini G4 with 32mb vram?


Yeap! It works :-D

Edit: Evidenced from the many YouTube vids.  ;-)
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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2009, 09:12:50 AM »
@persia

Why don't you do that?
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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2009, 10:21:44 AM »
@DiskDoctor

 :-?

The last word about this that I've read from the Frieden brothers is that MacMini port will never happen.

So, what kernel would that AOS4.x macmini version use then?
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Re: AmigaOS on PPC Mac - are there any legal objections?
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2009, 10:24:06 AM »
On the other hand....

Hyperion could do AOS4box on top of quark kernell to open up more business via MOS as the host...  :crazy:  :-P
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