Network Boot disk ncftp questions

[circlip]

Thanks to all of you who helped me get my networking card working on my A600.


Ok, I have the network boot disk from here:

http://jpv.wmhost.com/NetworkBootDisk/

I have just a couple questions about ncftp in it so I can do stuff.

1. How do I download (transfer) a file to my HDD when I have logged into an ftp server with ncftp?

2. Is there a way I can install the Network Boot Disk onto the HDD, so when I load workbench, I can double-click, and it will load with all settings?

Thank you very much,

Circlip.

[Claw22000]

Awesome Just found this little goody thanks to you!!!

I'm gonna love this.  Its a way to recover if I ever loose my HD.  Thanks!!!!!

Claw

[circlip]

Heheh, good on you claw! Glad to be of indirect help, lol. Any ideas how to use it properly?

[Claw22000]

Well it sounds pretty straight forward I don't have time today as wifie wants to be cuddled alot today but I will give it a try after work tommorow.  I will get back to ya then.

Claw

[pVC]

1. Usually it's not needed, but if you want to be sure files will be transferred with correct mode especially if connected to server running on Windows, type "bin" to get binary mode on.

Then navigate to correct direcotory on ftp site with "cd" and "dir" commands. To download file type "get filename".

It will be downloaded to your local current directory. To change current directory use "lcd" command. You can also go to current directory first before running the ncftp.

If you want to download multiple files at once, type "mget fil*" and you get all files starting with "fil".


2. Not that easy way. It's designed to be runned from floppy or similar non permanent media. I'd recommend to install full TCP/IP stack to your HD for permanent use. Of course nothing is impossible and you could copy needed files from installed disk to your HD and merge changes in startup files and env variables to your system... but never try to run config script after it. Hmm.. there could be idea to make it installable in future version afterall..

[circlip]

Thanks PVC,

How do I copy a whole directory?

Circlip.

EDIT: more specifically, How do I copy a directory and its contents, including subdirectories?

[pVC]

I don't think that version of ncftp supports recursive downloads. I think you have to pack the contents first if you're planning to transfer complex directory structures and unpack it after transfer. If you were planning to transfer installed program with it's directories, it's better to archive it anyway so that it doesn't possibly lose any protection bits in transfer.

If it's not that complex, then you might make dirs first in your system and then transfer files with "mget *" for proper dirs...

[Claw22000]

Didn't really seem that hard to use.  I don't recommend using Samba as windows isn't reliable not to mention doesn't support resume.  FTP is much more trust worthy  not to mention more tolerant of any errors that can occur.  

Before I tell you how to setup your network I need to ask a few questions.  How much networking experience do you have?

Do you have the 2 computers hooked up to a router, switch, or crossover cable?

what OS is on the modern computer?

Claw

[pVC]

@Claw22000
I think he already has the network connection up and running. It's just how to use ftp.

@circlip
And of course if you want to transfer file from another local computer, you could use better ftp client on it and upload them to your A600 as it has the ftp-server too. Then you can transfer big dir structures...

[Claw22000]

Well that's easy.  I use a program called WS-FTP the 95 version.  I use this because not only is it free if your not using it for business.  And the 95 version works on all OSes from 95-Vista.  And it doesn't halt on errors.  This means when it sends the ls -al  command and the FTP server sends back an error code it doesn't stop the program for continuing to communicate with the server.  After that just drag and drop what you want to send to the amiga in the blank window and wait for the status bar to go away multiple files are ok but if you want to send directories you need to compress them with lha first then send them.

Claw

[Colani1200]

Claw22000 wrote:
Well that's easy.  I use a program called WS-FTP the 95 version.

Those Amiga people really like old stuff.  :lol:

Here's something more modern. Free + open source.

[circlip]

Thanks guys, yes the network is up and running, and I actually uploaded what I wanted to to the miggy via an ftp client. I also managed to do it the other way round, pc as ftp server, and Amiga as client.

But... why do the files not show up in workbench? I can list them in CLI, but workbench doesn't show a folder or files??

[pVC]

That newbie for an Amiga, eh By default Workbench shows only files and dirs which have icons (.info file for each). You can get all files visible by selecting "Window->Show->All files" from menu with right mouse button.

And if you want to have some drawer to show all files permanently, then you can snapshot the drawer when you have "all files" mode selected.

I'd recommend you to get proper filemanager like DirectoryOpus for file handling instead of trying to do things with WB... with it you can easily add icons for needed dirs/files too..

[circlip]

Directory Opus, cool. I've heard of that. Available for stock Amiga 600?

[pVC]

DirectoryOpus 4 worked on stock A500, so yes, it will work on A600 too. It was commercial product, but nowadays it's sources are free and there's free ports of it around. Not sure about their requirements, but check what can you find... original DOpus4 will work at least.

There's some other filemanagers too, but I've always preferred DOpus... although DOpus5 for last ten years