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Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« on: February 20, 2009, 05:59:46 PM »
Hopefully the copy of OS 3.9 that I ordered will eventually arrive someday....

When that day comes, I don't have a CD drive on my A1200, but I have a CF. Can I copy the OS 3.9 files to the CF with my PC, and then install OS 3.9 on my A1200, from the CF?
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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2009, 06:32:36 PM »
Yes and you can also boot OS 3.9 from the CF card if you wish.

IIRC, you just have to rename your CF card to AmigaOS3.9, AmigaOS 3.9 or Amiga OS3.9. It's 'one' of those, but I believe it's the first one. May also have to open a shell and type an assign too in order for the automatic installation to repeatedly call upon 3.9 during installation.

If all of the above fail for you, simply copy the necessary files from the CD to the CF card and then onto your Miggy.
 

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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2009, 06:42:52 PM »
Don't format the card as FAT. Set it up as an Amiga hard drive in WinUAE and format it as an Amiga filesystem, then copy the OS3.9 files from within UAE.

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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2009, 06:46:04 PM »

Yes, you can. But copying files will most likely break the installation because some files cannot be copied with Windows (illegal file names in PC file system).

You could use WinUAE to format the CF card in Amiga format and copy files from within AmigaOS.

Or you could create an ISO image from the CD and use the files from this archive on your Amiga. The ISO must be called "AmigaOS3.9.iso" (without quotation marks). On the Amiga first run the Start script which will mount the ISO image. Then run the OS 3.9 installer and create an emergency floppy. When the floppy is ready, before you reboot, run the Copy_Files script which will change the floppy to use the ISO image instead of a real CD.

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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2009, 07:28:59 PM »
As Tomas said, create an iso and then boot the system with an emergency disk that mounts the CF as boot disk instead of the cdrom. For that purpose you can happily use the emergency disk that amije (he's a member here and of course in amigahellas.gr forum) has created.

http://files.amigahellas.gr/data/Utilities/cf-boot-disk.lha

I had the same question to do regarding OS4. Could someone avoid cdrom usage and use a CF instead or even a USB stick? Maybe this requires more tweaking.
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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2009, 10:04:29 PM »
i installed it by using FTP-mount once. Over 3.1 (or 3.5 though).
 

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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2009, 11:22:42 PM »
Wow! This is great information. Thank you all very much!

Now if OS 3.9 would just get here. I ordered it a month ago  :boohoo:
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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2009, 01:13:46 AM »
From thevintageamigan? lol
 

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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2009, 01:22:42 AM »
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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2009, 01:27:29 AM »
Did you deal directly with Joe, get confirmation and all that good stuff? Or did you order from the online webstore? If you dealt directly with him, I'm sure he's waiting to get 'em in stock. Otherwise...    :-(  
 

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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2009, 01:32:32 AM »
I dealt directly with Joe. The entire process has been one of the most frustrating deals I have ever endured.

But then again, I have never purchased ANY Amiga items from a vendor, both back-in-day, and present day, that wasn't an extremely long drawn out excruciating experience for one or more reasons.

At this point I'm about so happy that I could spit nails.

I've been a "mail order" freak for 30+ years, and when I order anything but Amiga stuff, I receive the item(s) promptly (usually amazingly promptly). But purchasing Amiga items from vendors has always been, and remains to be, a giant PITA.

It's almost enough to make me wanna give up on Amiga and go retro with Timex-Sinclair only. I can order Sinclair stuff from the far reaches of the earth, and I receive it promptly.
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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2009, 01:49:05 AM »
PM sent KatManDew.

Ahh... hang in there then. Like I said, I'm sure he's waiting to get them from his supplier. Might want to drop him a weekly line I guess to both remind and check the status.

I too have noticed that many of us are turning into lazy lima beans though.  LOL!  I could write a book on why I think this is, but the thing that strikes me odd is how far away we've gotten from being proactive. Seems many of us just became spoiled thanks to internet commerce and no longer have the ambition to properly "make the sale". Or follow though even. Not accusing anyone specifically here, but the patterns are obvious. Just look at most ePay ads these days. Nobody knows just what they are selling. Communication and the ads themselves are horribly written and there are seemingly unnecessary delays in shipping. It's frustrating dealing with anybody these days. Not just classic computer resellers.
 

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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2009, 01:54:57 AM »
Classic Sinclair computer resellers are prompt and thoughtfull. Purchasing Amiga stuff was a long drawn out PITA 20 years ago (for me anyway).

By the time I get the dog gone stuff that I ordered, I just wanna throw it and the corner and be glad the ordeal is over with, and I finally got what I paid for. Sure takes much of the fun out of it.....

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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2009, 02:20:07 AM »
you can install os39 with no cd (iso or file).
But the updates wont work with no os39 cd and it
also detects `virtual CD` and aborts instalation of updates(boingbags).
 
the only way is attach the HDD to yor PC
install, updated and copy/extract all your stuff through
WinUAE.
Let your PC do the hard work and save your A1200 for Fun stuff.

 
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Re: Can I install OS 3.9 without a CD drive?
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2009, 02:29:03 AM »
Thanks for the info. Do I need a 2.5" to 3.5" IDE adapter to attach my Amiga 1200 HD to my PC?

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you can install os39 with no cd (iso or file).
But the updates wont work with no os39 cd and it
also detects `virtual CD` and aborts instalation of updates(boingbags).
 
the only way is attach the HDD to yor PC
install, updated and copy/extract all your stuff through
WinUAE.
Let your PC do the hard work and save your A1200 for Fun stuff.

 
A1000
A1200 - Indivision. Apollo 1240.
A2000 - GVP 040-16 meg, 2 meg chip, CD-RW, Flicker Fixer, Picasso II, 8 Up, 286 Bridgecard, OS 3.9
A2000HD #2 - 8 meg RAM, Genlock, Tower case