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A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« on: September 09, 2003, 12:02:38 AM »
I have a question or else a problem....

I just bought OS 3.9 from Software Hut.
My disk sais it has a read error.
It seems to me that I've seen other posts
of problems in installing OS 3.9.

The problem is I can't create a boot disk,
I keep getting a read error on the disk. I
have 2 CD Roms and the same error on both
so I doubt its the drives.

The question is do I have a bad disk or am I
doing something else wrong ??
I'm upgrading from OS 3.1.

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Re: A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2003, 12:07:37 AM »
Could be a result of bad pressing. The best way to get to the bottom of this problem is to try and browse through the OS3.9 directories by inserting the CD into your PC's CD-R drive. If you don't get any trouble that would mean that the CD is OK.

Also try inserting some other CDs into your Amiga CD-R drives and see if you get similar error reports again or not.
 

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Re: A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2003, 12:19:03 AM »
i never had any problems with this ,
but if u mean... to make a floppy boot disk then sure , happens alot , since i have only bad floppies left...had to search for hours last time to find a floppy that os3.9 wanted to format and do a recovery disk.

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Re: A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2003, 01:49:22 AM »
If I remember correctly, there are some flaws in the script that creates the Emergenct Boot floopy.  I don't think it writes the required driver files for graphic cards, accelerators, etc.  I had to tweak mine.  It's probably better to have multiple boot partitions or better still, at least one bootable on 2 different hard drives.
 

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Re: A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2003, 01:56:01 AM »
yeah thats correct , u must have a hdd floppy drive to get that onto the floppy ...no room for that on 880kb ....i use hd floppy so no prob on that issue....the prob for me is finding floppys that aint dead :)

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Re: A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2003, 02:23:24 AM »
Hi Mell,
   Art from West Branch here.  I had trouble making an emergency boot disk too, is that what you are trying to do?  Or do I remember that the instructions tell us to boot from a boot disk and then install os3.9?  I just bit the bullet and installed right over 3.1 myself.  Didn't have anything on the drive that was not replacable anyhow.  Let me know how you are doing, I'm no expert but I'll help if I can.  Best regards .....ART
 

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Re: A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2003, 02:28:11 AM »
i got a 3.9 CD a couple of years ago and had the same problem. I still was able to install 3.9 on my HD - which is really important.
if you really want a boot floppy you might have to make one manually.
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Re: A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2003, 04:23:47 AM »
If the CD works on another computer, then your CD drivers on the Amiga may need some tweaking. Are the DOSDrivers heavily modified from their defaults? What CDFS are you using?
 

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Re: A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2003, 05:21:28 AM »
Hmmm.....
I didn't try a HD disk, I have them, just thought
the boot disk would be a 880. There is no mention
of a 1.76 drive required. I have the HD drive so I'll
try that. I'll also try the disk in my PC.
My Rom drives are a CD/R  & CD/R/W, I don't think
my drives are the problem.

I was going to install over OS 3.1 but the install
prg. said I should make a Emergency Boot disk
first.
It seems odd that they would require a HD drive,
I didn't think they were all that plentiful (hard to get).

I'm going to try the HD drive and see how that works.
I'll let you know.........

(hello Art,, did you get that AmigaBasic going?)

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Re: A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2003, 08:54:46 AM »

The boot disk requirement depends on how you answer the questions. If you say "yes" to the IDEfix question, the installer tries to copy all parts of IDEfix onto the boot floppy which definitely does not fit on 880kb.

But the message in this case should be "disk full" and not "read error". Are you sure that the floppy disk has the read error ? If the CD-ROM has read errors, you should adjust the mountlist. Try to reduce the MaxTransfer value to 0xfe00.

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Re: A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2003, 08:23:13 PM »
Actually its the CD, after looking at what was
happening..... it apears that the format command
is bad on the CD.   Thats where its hanging up.
I copied the command over to the harddrive but
it doesn't work. The format command on the CD
is atleast a third bigger than the format command
in OS 3.1. Probably because it creates a boot disk.
But it doesn't work so I'll play around with it, see
what happens.

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Re: A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2003, 09:10:41 AM »

The format command of 3.9 *is* different from that of 3.1. This is probably because it uses ReAction for its GUI and it can format HDDs above 4GB.

3.1: Format 40.2 (14-Jun-1993)
3.9: Format 44.14 (12-Jul-1999)

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Re: A Question about 'OS 3.9'
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2003, 11:41:21 AM »
Actually under cgx,  the os39 emergancy floppy script runs just fine. Only the needed files get copied across, not the entire rtg suite since the emergancy floppy is only to get ya going on the os install process,  not a complete os on a disk ;)

this hasnt been a problem for os35 or 39. no hand tweeking neccessary.