Any webpage on ANY Amiga browser?

[gurthuk]

Skweezer.com seem to have a good mobile transcoder service.

[DiskDoctor]

bloodline wrote:
@DiskDoctor

It seems a lot of work for the 5 users who insist on using old Amiga Browsers for anything other than novelty value!

I didn't realize it's five users only; my impression was rather that many people do since this very CMS here is supported by old browsers, isn't it?

Also, what about people using 3.X classics?  If I did, I would surely want to use it as FULL desktop system whilst 80% of the desktop feel is a fine web browser nowadays.  This AWeb I'm seeing requires cleanup really.

So this is worth it I think.

[weirdami]

My website works with any browser already.

[DiskDoctor]

weirdami wrote:
My website works with any browser already.

Good for you.  BTW did you try WAP/WML (1.0, 1.1) enabled cellphone as well?

I meant top sites being visited.  Most (110%) webmasters are testing sites against IE7, IE6, recent FF and eventually Opera.  Safari will be added in two years maybe.

Period.

You will never achieve old Amiga browser support automatically...  Too much of fancy new w3 technologies no one can live without are there.

[Ilwrath]

It seems a lot of work for the 5 users who insist on using old Amiga Browsers for anything other than novelty value!

It really isn't, though.  Back before my A4000D took a nosedive, I used to run it's iBrowse and AWeb through my local Privoxy proxy that ran on my gateway NAT/ICS server.  Just by that stripping useless junk code out of the HTML, it accidentally improved compatibility quite a bit for the Amiga.  

I never thought of trying to present an Amiga browser as an old cell phone.  That's an interesting idea.  What you'd have to do, though, is find some still somewhat supported phone/browser combo that has such a limited feature set as an old Amiga browser, though.  Not the most common thing in the world.  

[Linde]

Taken to the extreme I'd say ALynx would be a solution, but I'm guessing that's not quite what you want. I just turned all images off in AWeb on my old 1200 and it works fine for most site's I'd actually want to visit from it (WHDownload, aminet etc)

[DiskDoctor]

The idea behind it is maybe to have such a proxy server that recognizes your browser (by its UA), hence knowing W3 standards it accepts (e.g. HTML version).  Then it forwards http request, introducing itself as an adequate known UA (possibly mobile, too, like WindowsMobile).

My idea is that there are two proxy components
- simple forward using predefined UA list
- forward and (XSL) transformation to the native html code

Since old Amiga browsers are simple, transforming should be pretty simple, too.

How I see it - by clicking "refresh" button, proxy would switch among all possibilities (user agents corresponding to one's browser, plus transformation mode).  Then one could "switch" anytime between content been served, so that he/she picks up most fancy one, probably thoroughly better than original.

See my point?

[Varthall]

As you are running 3.x under emulation, you could try instead OWB for 68k which supports more up-to-date web standards.

Varthall

[Munchkin]

For the most part sites work with IBrowse if javascript is turned off, at least for me.

Of course sites with heavy use of CSS looks like cr*p and for those a solution like this could be something. My main concern is for those sites that won't work if you disable javascript, sites like hotmail and others. No current OS3.x browser can handle javascripts without crashing the system, at least not here.

[DiskDoctor]

I'll try to run my tests as soon as I learn how to spoof my UA under/within AOS3.X.  I have AmigaForever version actually.  Again, anybody knows the way??

As a first run I'll try to collect as much nice "look and feel" UserAgents as possible, mainly mobile, testing on a native browser I have access to.

[gurthuk]

I'll PM you an XML file of user-agents I use with Firefox / User-agent switcher.

[gurthuk]

Another good list can be found at Wurfl although it might not be a easy to use format -3Mb XML

[gurthuk]

email sent - Wurfl and my email are all mobile user-agents

[DiskDoctor]

Thanks.

But I won't use firefox - I have to look at webpages through my AmigaForever/AWeb so... I have to spoof it at Windows level, I guess.