Any webpage on ANY Amiga browser?

[DiskDoctor]

Hello,

I recently tried out some 3.x system from AmigaForever pack.
The browser is much outdated but works.

Roughly...

So this is a question rather - is there any proxy server adjusting content to ANY Amiga browser??

If not, it's easy to establish one really.
Two examples:

1) cellphone operators in most cases use proxy for WAP/WAP2 connection - as far as I know its purpose is among others to adjust content to (or check against) xHTML (in WAP2.0)

2) Opera Mini, since released, uses its own proxy server to transform and fit ANY page to ANY cell, even some 128 x . screen(!!)

So, doesn't seem tough.

Maybe I am an ignorant - is there any proxy dedicated to transforming web content for old (ancient) Amiga browsers??

[DiskDoctor]

One more thing - anybody knows how to change UserAgent in AWEB.1 from AmigaForever's AmigaOS3.X??

[Piru]

So, doesn't seem tough.

Famous last words...

[DiskDoctor]

Piru wrote:

So, doesn't seem tough.

Famous last words...

I don't get it

[Piru]

It is tough. Very tough. At least if you desire to get anywhere usable result.

[gurthuk]

Opera Mini and Mobile are a pig as they mask the true user-agent of the mobile, which in turn prevents content providers from displaying content that is correct for your mobile phone. Content providers then dumb down the site and show only the basic content despite you having an all-singing mobile. Country detection is also screwed as everyone appears to be in Sweden (Opera's gateway).

Mobile operators also mess with the content when it passes through their gateways; strip out adverts and replace them with their own, lower the quality of images to aid faster download, change tags in the code and block sites if they think you're under 18 and the site is adult (check for adult keyword combinations).

Could use a transcoder like www.google.com/m but Google will push you out if they can see your user-agent isn't a mobile device.

Could look for other transcoders and see how they work?

[DiskDoctor]

@Piru

It is not tough, at all.

@gurthuk

Google mobile aliases are mess already

Use your e.g. 3.X native browser Try m.google.com or mobile.google.com and switch to mobile device.

What you get... Google sees Amiga UserAgent and considers it unknown (no wonder).  Note that if you were using IE or Firefox or Safari or else, Google would know it and serve you a normal webpage.

But all unknown UAs are considered as very old or odd cellphones.  Old cellphones used WML instead of xHTML so what you get is a WML document, not viewable in any www browser since it's just some XML.

Say, I worked for two years in a mobile industry, enabling new phones in mCMS so that any phone is served properly.  All you gotta do is forge your UserAgent.  It's easy to pick on the web (the string) and if you introduce yourself as a decent WindowsMobile device (e.g. QVGA, VGA maybe), you will be served pure xhtml, formatted to 240 x 320 resolution so fine for Amigas.

So I think it is about to catch HTTP request on a system level and change it, that's all.  I am eager about the result...

[persia]

User Agent is a string provided by your brower.  Most browsers have a plug in to set your user-agent to anything you want, like say Opera-Mini on a Cra or whatever.

[DiskDoctor]

persia wrote:
User Agent is a string provided by your brower.  Most browsers have a plug in to set your user-agent to anything you want, like say Opera-Mini on a Cra or whatever.

Yes, I know it.

My question was about Amiga old browsers - do you know any plugin or rather system script / way of doing this?

I want to play on this OS3.X and see the results.

[gurthuk]

I use the user-agent switcher extension for Firefox. Not sure of a OS3.x alternative.

I'll have a dig round in my bookmarks later as I'm sure I have a transcoder site somewhere...

[DiskDoctor]

That's what I get:

AWeb (www.amigaforever.com)/3.4APL; (Spoofed by Amiga-AWeb/3.4APL)
(it's a string - no link here)


Here is a pretty list.

I would like to change it e.g. to

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320)

There MUST be a script!
I am not able to search this Aminet stuff - always get null answer
But I'll keep trying.

[gurthuk]

How is your Amiga connected to the interent?

wi-fi to a router?
ethernet to a router?
ethernet to a PC which is sharing its connection?

If it’s the later you might be able to intercept the header being sent and change it before being sent out.

[DiskDoctor]

It is not Amiga, it's AmigaForever software.
But I have 3.X AWeb emulation in it.

It's run on WinXP that has a WiFi connection to my access point which is, in turn, connected to my ISP's cable modem.

I searched Aminet but found and installed only this - it doesn't help.

[bloodline]

@DiskDoctor

It seems a lot of work for the 5 users who insist on using old Amiga Browsers for anything other than novelty value!

[gurthuk]

Skweezer.com seem to have a good mobile transcoder service.