A4000 on eBay

[AmiDude]

I'm looking for an A4000 for basic use.
Do you guys think this is a good deal?

A4000 eBay

[Painkiller]

I'd say it is a bit pricey. I have seen those go around 300€

[Lorraine]

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[alexh]

I bought one in better condition (not yellowed) with more extras for less than half that price (£150) last year (from eBay).

And it was a rare Rev D, A4000D-CR where this is a regular Rev B A4000D!

Don't pay too much.

[taunusand]

Yes, a bit overpriced.
But nice condition :-)

Surely a CD-ROM drive/burner, cheap, would be the first upgrade for this Amiga :-)

[alexh]

taunusand wrote:
Surely a CD-ROM drive/burner, cheap, would be the first upgrade for this Amiga :-)

What for?

Surely the first upgrade would be a back panel IDE->CF adapter and a CF card?

Much easier to fit and use than an optical drive and facilitates fast transfer of files from a PC.

[dannyp1]

Overpriced or underpriced is in the eye of the beholder.  Just do your homework and see what they have sold for and what add-ons you want your A4000 to have.  Shipping cost kind of limits you to where you can buy from.  Personnel sales in the 50 - 100 - 150 range really can't be compared to sales through an auction.  If I buy one from my neighbor for 50 dollars, this means absolutely nothing to you or the value of an A4000 unless you have a neighbor with one for sale for 50 dollars.  This sounds like a nice unit and at least it isn't stripped.  One sold on EBay last night where the guy listed the computer seperate from the keyboard and mouse.  Good luck!!!

[taunusand]

alexh wrote:
What for?

Surely the first upgrade would be a back panel IDE->CF adapter and a CF card?

Much easier to fit and use than an optical drive and facilitates fast transfer of files from a PC.

Sorry, that's just what I would do, maybe it's because I have a pile of used IDE CD-rom drives :lol:

I think your suggestion about a back panel IDE->CF adapter are more usefull, IF you have a card reader for your PC and a CF card.

But considering the an upgrade to OS3.9 are what most people with big-box Amiga's want, I think a CD-rom drive will be necessary. I use cd's for my A4000 and CF for my A1200, I get the best of both things :-)

That's just what I would do, we all have different oppinions, luckily :-)

I just compared the price whit what I gave for my A4000/040 in 2006. But I have to agree that auktion prices mostly are higher. Amiga can very well be an expensive hobby :lol:

[alexh]

taunusand wrote:
But considering the an upgrade to OS3.9 are what most people with big-box Amiga's want, I think a CD-rom drive will be necessary.

Why? You can install OS3.9 on your CF card using WinUAE before hand. Much easier than on a real Amiga.

dannyp1 wrote:
Overpriced or underpriced is in the eye of the beholder.

Not it isn't! It is pure maths. The price of the auction less the average price of similar auctions over a period of time. If it is negative it is under priced, if it is positive it is over priced.

€289
€286
€261
€238
€195
€137

eBay A4000D 030/040 Average = €235

So at €449 the item is €214 over priced!

[taunusand]

alexh wrote:

taunusand wrote:
But considering the an upgrade to OS3.9 are what most people with big-box Amiga's want, I think a CD-rom drive will be necessary.

Why? You can install OS3.9 on your CF card using WinUAE before hand. Much easier than on a real Amiga.

That is a matter of taste ;-)
I always do it "on the real thing" if I can.
The only time I have used UAE for anything usefull, was a few days ago when I needed to transfer ClassicWB to my A1200 :-)

I have to agree with dannyp1, but if you think it's to expencive, don't but it. But I would buy this A4000 at the auction price, if I needed it.

[alexh]

taunusand wrote:
I always do it "on the real thing" if I can.

Wow you masochist ;-)

When it comes to crap like installing (which I dont consider to be a part of the Amiga experience) I always like to do whatever is easiest and quickest. In the case of Amiga OS installation WinUAE is the best choice. An install of OS3.9 takes a fraction of the time it takes on a real Amiga. It's easy to also install all the boing-bags and various fixes, libraries etc. and also install all essential tools not on the OS3.9 CD.

Not only that you can pre-prepare an image in WinUAE, keep a copy on the PC and simply copy over to the CF card whenever you need to re-install.

[Lorraine]

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[taunusand]

Once the system is installed, it works. Luckily I don't need to re-install my Amiga's :-)
(At least not very often, mostly when I mess around with an Amiga I want to re-install and sell :roll: )

My A4000 has the same install of OS3.9 since I bought it in 2006, just a few added a few programs and games :-)

Really is just a matter of taste I guess.

Yes, that's also my oppinion :-)

[alexh]

Lorraine wrote:
Ah, but then there's some here, who, once they've done the install on the PC would just leave it there and use the PC as an Amiga (skipping the physical thing out all together). ;-)

If WinUAE felt closer to the real thing than it does I would. It's close but not close enough yet.

But we are going off topic. I've shown empirically that the A4000D in question is over priced.

[AmiDude]

eBay A4000D 030/040 Average = €235. So at €449 the item is €214 over priced!

But this one comes with a Blizzard 4030, kickrom 3.1 and a HD diskdrive. Also for me is the clock-battery very important. I have bought several A4000's in the past, to find out that they had all leaky batteries. The other auctions are very vague about the state of the battery or they have kickrom 3.0 or DD diskdrive's.
And only last week there was a similar A4000/030 sold for 450 euro's. So I'm very tempted to buy this one. It's in really good shape.   :-)